SPEAKER_00 0:00

It's uh it sounded like you were like punching punching bags.

SPEAKER_01 0:05

No, that's someone outside are doing a little uh screen fixing my Wi-Fi sucks upstairs in my bedroom, so I'm downstairs in the kitchen.

SPEAKER_00 0:13

Well, I'm super pumped, dude.

SPEAKER_01 0:15

Yes, uh, it's been a while, man.

SPEAKER_00 0:17

How you been? I'm decent, man. Just just chilling up here in the frigid cold air while you're basking in the sun down there and climbing trees and drinking coconuts.

SPEAKER_01 0:29

Yes, uh well, how's the how's the temperature out there right now?

SPEAKER_00 0:35

You guys getting blizzards like Massachusetts always does? Super cold. It's been like zero to ten degrees uh cold spell for like oh uh two or three weeks, and we still got another week of it. Oh wow, that sucks. It usually I'm good all winter. I don't even own a coat. I just throw a hoodie on, some gloves, a hat. Um, but this past three weeks has been rough, dude. Uh-huh. I bet, man. What are you doing now for work and whatnot? Uh work in manufacturing. I'm a marketer um at a nice manufacturing company in Spencer. Okay. Yeah, so just kind of doing website stuff, SEO, content writing, working in with the sales team, doing email marketing, anything that has to do with marketing. I'm a s I'm the only marketer there. So if it needs to get done, any business card, whatever it might be, I'm the guy.

SPEAKER_01 1:35

Sweet. That's awesome, man. Good for you. That's amazing. Spencer's actually where I grew up. Um, I grew up in Spencer, Massachusetts. That's where I was born. I was born in Worcester, but you know, I no way. Yeah, Spencer was I went to Lake Street um for uh, you know, first and third grade. I went to what is that place called? David Proudy uh for kindergarten. And um, and then I went to well, I went to Bay Path for high school, but then I transferred over to David Proudy High School in uh Spencer.

SPEAKER_00 2:05

How long have you been in Hawaii?

SPEAKER_01 2:07

Eight years.

SPEAKER_00 2:09

No way. Yeah, eight years. Yeah. So have you been putting content out for a while, or is this something new you just started?

SPEAKER_01 2:18

Uh dude, honestly, I've been my journey's been crazy. When I first moved to Maui, Hawaii, I was uh honestly super unconscious. I kind of brought that fuckboy energy that I had in Massachusetts and just partied my ass off on the beach and just had a bunch of one night stands and drinking, partying, completely different person than I am now. And um, and then when uh COVID happened is when my awakening, I guess you would say, happened. Um, because I identified myself with my job and uh identified myself with, you know, one night stands and outside validation and everything. And so when COVID happened, I had none of that and I lost my frickin' mind. And I had a man come to my doorstep every morning to smoke a joint with me, and he um told me, he asked me if I wanted to be of service to the community. And so um I started feeding the unsheltered people with him, and we started an organization together where we would collect food from the different farmers' markets and feed the unsheltered people. And so once I started being in service, I for the first time in my life, I was a part of something bigger than myself, and it just liberated me. And I moved out of the house, I moved into a van, and um, actually, I moved into my two-door Jeep and um I drove all over the islands just feeding the unsheltered people for like four or five years, and that's where I've been for most of the time is four or five years just feeding the unsheltered people, completely in service, not on the internet, not on the news, not on media, just completely the world is going to shit. I'm just gonna help as best I can, and the best way I can is just to be of service and feed the unsheltered people and grow food.

SPEAKER_00 4:00

And so that's now when you say unsheltered, when you say unsheltered people, you uh you mean people who um are homeless?

SPEAKER_01 4:08

Yeah, exactly. We didn't we never call them homeless because we believe that home is where the heart is. So everybody has a home. Um, but the unsheltered, meaning like the shelter, they don't have like a shelter over their head kind of thing.

SPEAKER_00 4:19

Um So this guy, he just a random guy knocked on your door and asked you if you wanted to help people?

SPEAKER_01 4:25

No, no. So me and him were friends for a couple of years before that. Um he actually saved me from getting married. Um, I was actually about to get married and he took me to another island, and uh, we took some acid and literally woke me up, and I was like, nope, that's not the one. Nope, bad, bad move. And we got back to Maui and I totally called it off. So it's pretty, pretty wild.

SPEAKER_03 4:48

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 4:49

Yeah, it's been quite the journey. And then uh walk me. Go ahead. You first you oh go ahead. I I'd love to answer the question. I was just gonna continue.

SPEAKER_00 5:01

Uh that's a beautiful uh glass of juice you have.

SPEAKER_01 5:05

Yeah, it's fresh orange juice and coconut straight from the ion, straight from the trees. I'm on a juice cleanse right now, 90 days. I saw that. Yeah. It's pretty wild.

SPEAKER_00 5:18

I was gonna ask how how did you pick Maui and what did it look like? You were living in Massachusetts, right? Mm-hmm. And what did Brando say? You should move to Maui, man, or how did you even think to do this?

SPEAKER_01 5:34

Well, I was a fat kid growing up my whole life, and I never knew how to exercise or how to take care of myself, really. And my parents kind of sheltered me and didn't give me a lot of knowledge as far as, you know, the financial world, building business, and definitely not about exercise or taking care of your body. And so I started going to the gym and um met this guy, and he taught me how to take care of myself and taught me how to exercise. And um, I started getting in really good shape and started feeling really good about myself. And I started running outside and going to the gym for hours, and I start showing up at work with all this high energy. And I remember our boss um at the time ended up taking me into his office and he told me, listen, man, people can't, people can't deal with your higher energy at 9 a.m. You know, you got you got to get off your high horse. I want you to come in, I want you to make your money, I want you to serve your tables, and then I want you to go home. And I said, What uh okay, so you want me to lower my energy and just take care of myself. Uh hold on, I'm gonna actually go into another room because there's a lot of noise here.

SPEAKER_00 6:38

No worries. I mean, it's not distracting to me. If you're comfortable there, stay put.

SPEAKER_01 6:43

I'm totally comfortable. I didn't know if I was I didn't know if I was uh messing up the the video call here. No, you're good. Okay, cool. Um, yeah, I'm totally fine.

SPEAKER_00 6:54

You actually look great.

SPEAKER_01 6:55

Oh, thanks, man.

SPEAKER_00 6:57

I had Casey Tobin. I had Casey Tobin on the other night, and he was all like horizontal, flipping his phone around. He was in a bar. Um so this is nice. This seems like a lot more relaxed conversation than that was, but it was still fun. It was do you remember that guy?

SPEAKER_02 7:12

I do remember that guy. That guy taught me how to sell wine. He was the guy.

SPEAKER_00 7:18

Your high energy, I always thought your high energy was a positive note. I didn't know it was a negative thing.

SPEAKER_01 7:24

That's I mean, dude, that's what that I mean, what I've really learned here more than anything, is that there are there is never good, there is never bad, there is never right, there is never wrong, there is never terrible, there is never terrific. It's always both. And everything, everything, because we live in this third dimension and we live in this third dimension of polarity, it's always both. And I can honestly look at that guy, our boss, that told me your high energy is too much for people. You gotta calm your shit down and take care of your tables and go home. That was the catalyst for me to move to Maui. So it was actually a good thing. In the moment, I was hurt, I was triggered, I was, oh fuck you, man. Uh-uh, I just like totally totally upset. And um it was it was the biggest gift of my life. And um, so after that conversation, I said, I gotta get out of here. This is not for me. And I started going around. I was gonna move to California. I was actually talking to Brando's girlfriend at the time, and uh, she said, and uh Brando came over, he said, No, man, you don't want to go to California. If you don't like the rat race here in Massachusetts, you're gonna hate it in California. You want to go somewhere where the sun's shining every day, people will respect your positive energy, people live the spirit of Aloha. I'm like, yeah, that sounds great. Where's that? He said, Go to West, go to West Side Maui, Hawaii. I said, Hawaii? Like Lilo and Stitch? And he said, Yeah, like Lilo and Stitch. I said, You can live there? He said, Yeah. I said, No way. He said, Yeah. That minute I went into the back room where we used to fold napkins. And um, I went on my I went to my bank account and spent all my money that I had in my bank account on a ticket to Maui, Hawaii in three months. And I told myself, I'm gonna save up five grand in three months and I'm gonna move to Maui, Hawaii. And everyone told me I wasn't gonna do it. Everyone was doubting me the whole time. They said, You're not you're not, you ain't leaving, you ain't going to Maui. I was like, Yeah, well, watch me, I'm gonna go. And um, my literally the place I was gonna stay canceled the week before I was gonna move to Maui. The guy, the the place that I had locked in for months, canceled. And I said, Nope, no freaking way. I don't care, I'll sleep on the beach. I I'm not staying here. And I left. And I got a place last minute, thank God. But yeah, I I did it. I moved to Maui.

SPEAKER_00 9:40

Isn't it funny how like I had the same experience when I said I was gonna go to Nicaragua, when I wanted to go to Thailand, when I wanted to go to Vietnam? Everyone was so negative about it. It's dangerous. What are you, crazy? Why don't you just go to Cape Cod like everyone else? I'm like, what? This is like a positive in my life, and everyone is is throwing a negative uh thing at you. But I guess if you if you're not comfortable, if you if it's unknown, that can make people weary or even like scared. Um, but it seems like for your situation it was a positive experience. And I'm I'm happy you did that, man. It takes a lot of guts. Not everyone, you know, you could get easily stuck, especially in the restaurant business, um, if everyone around you is is telling you not to do something. And you are it probably younger than a lot of people. Yeah, I was 25.

SPEAKER_01 10:32

Yeah, I was 25. Yeah. Just finding my way. Yeah, that was wild. Yeah, I moved to uh as soon as I landed on Maui Man, they drove me to my spot and I put my stuff inside, I dropped my bags, I took off my shirt, and I ran, I ran down the road. I had a cashier's check, I needed a check at the bank. And in Massachusetts, there's banks everywhere, you know? Everywhere you go, there's a bank. You're good. Just drive in one direction, you'll find a bank. Not in Maui. I literally left and it had an hour to get to the bank, and I was like, I'll just, I'll just run, I'll just go. I didn't take my phone with me. I was like, I'm free, I'm in Maui. All I need is my cashier's check. It's Friday, gotta get there in an hour, I'll get there, no worries. And I just sprinted down the road. Well, 30, 45 minutes later, it started getting jungly, the vines and the big trees, and it started looking more jungle. And I was like, uh, I don't know if there's a bank around here. And I started freaking out, and then I remember what Brando told me. He said, if you're ever in any trouble, just stick your hand out like this with your thumb up, and just pray. And I said, Okay, so I did that. I suck my thumb out for my first time hitchhiking, and um, I shit you not, man. A freaking Volkswagen bus came came and pulled over, and a bunch of freaking hippies, uh surfer dudes with their long hair, like it was in a movie, dude, surfboards on the freaking roof, and they're like, Hey, brother, yo, you look hungry, cuz, oh bro, you need a ride, man. Come on, have some crackers and cheese. You want some water? I was like, what is this place? This is awesome. And they gave me a ride to the bank and I made it in time. And then I got to the bank and my cashier's check didn't clear because in Massachusetts it was five hours ahead. So the cashier's check couldn't clear all weekend. I couldn't pay my rent, I didn't have money for food, I had nothing. And I said, Oh my god, what am I gonna do? And I freaked out in the bank, and I said, I just moved here, blah, blah, blah. The bank, dude, the bank lent me $200 for the weekend for food. The bank and said, Yeah, just come back here on Monday, all good, brother. Aloha. And I'm like, what is this place? Like, you could not get that in Massachusetts, no freaking way. Like, it was just so much trust and aloha and love here. It's just, it's beautiful. It's really changed my whole direction and look on life um altogether.

SPEAKER_00 12:57

Yeah. Nice. So, and your experience, you weren't shunned because you weren't a local on the island. You were actually accepted.

SPEAKER_01 13:05

Well, again, both sides. There's locals that don't like white people at all. They call them howlies. Ha ole. Ha means breath, ole means um no. So no breath, no spirit is what they call them. And um, yeah, there's a lot of locals here that don't like the white people. It's very understandable. The white people literally came in and took over their land and took everything they had, and it's really fucked up. You know, when I was feeding the unsheltered people, I got really, really close to some of these guys, like veterans, old locals, uncles, and it was it was heavy to hear some of the stories. So I totally understand why. But um, there's also a good amount of people here too that, you know, a lot of white people here now, you know. Um, so it's not all locals, but there are there are quite a bit of locals that, you know, like you, as long as you got good heart, good spirit, you know, and you're and you're in your heart and you're doing the right thing and you're not um, you know, being in being as long as you're not being an asshole, you're fine. You know.

SPEAKER_00 14:05

So you made it through your first weekend uh with a loan from the bank. And then did you have a job set up or how how did you plan to, did you have to go find something?

SPEAKER_01 14:15

Dude, I got initiated on this island like no one else. I couldn't find a job uh two weeks in. I was drinking at the time. So I was drinking and I bought, I I put all my money that I had, all $5,000 gone in like a week. I spent it on a moped and first and last on my apartment and some food. That was it. Went two weeks without any money, um, and was just drinking and driving around on my moped and looking for a place to work. And um, I got into a moped accident and uh 35 miles an hour down the road, moped fell on top of my leg, and they almost had to amputate my leg and my leg turned green. And uh it was really bad. And they didn't take my leg, thankfully. And um after that I got a job because I really needed a job at that point, and I was limping into every every restaurant I could looking for a job, and they looked at my leg, going, uh and eventually I found, you know, a bar that I worked at for a while and got up on my feet, and then I got hired at Duke's Beach House right on the beach, and that was freaking beautiful. And um, yeah, and then I got initiated into timeshare, and then I got initiated into selling fine art on Front Street, meeting all the artists and working with the artist and selling art, slinging art, and then that's when COVID happened after that.

SPEAKER_00 15:37

Weird. What was the vibe like when COVID hit on the island? It was heavy, really heavy.

SPEAKER_01 15:45

Not as heavy as everywhere else, though, I don't think. Because we had we had kind of a leverage point because Hawaii is where surfing was born, so they couldn't take away the surfing. So um I pretty much spent most of the time out on my paddleboard and feeding the unsheltered people. As long as you were six feet apart from people out in the ocean and you weren't hanging out on the beach, you could be in the ocean, which was cool, you know. So they had people in the ocean, you know, and we just all hung out. So it wasn't that bad.

SPEAKER_00 16:14

Were you part of preparing food or were you just distributing? How does that work?

SPEAKER_01 16:19

I was pretty much managing the kitchen and deliveries. It was, I mean, it was honestly for a lot for a while there, it was just me and my friend Steve a lot of days. Uh there was volunteers in the beginning, but eventually it faded out after a year. And it was just me and him for a while. And I was taking care of the deliveries and cooking food, and he was cooking food, delivering food. It was it was quite the adventure because it was all just in service to love. We didn't accept any money. We didn't accept any, um, we didn't want any money. All we wanted was to just be of service to the community, and we didn't want money to get involved. We wanted to show the community that we can do it with gifted time and energy from our hearts, not from money. And people were curious, and they actually came in wondering what they could do to help because we wouldn't accept their money. So it actually brought in more people to help and contribute. So it was really beautiful.

SPEAKER_00 17:10

And uh right around COVID, is this when you kind of like shunned social media and just wanted to live really minimalist? Or is this right when you got to the island you started thinking like this? No, it wasn't. Or did you quit drinking?

SPEAKER_01 17:23

Yeah, I I pretty much stopped drinking. I I wasn't really a hard drinker, not really. You know, I just drank a little bit when I first got to the island. Um, and even then I wasn't really heavy drinking, I was more of a weed smoker. And um, you know, I was also doing uh some psychedelics too. The islands are beautiful.

SPEAKER_00 17:40

Yeah, you said you were pilot you were partying and stuff, but uh maybe you still do.

SPEAKER_01 17:44

Hey. No, I yeah, I I actually don't. I've actually been spending a lot of time for the first time of my life focusing on my business and trying to do what you're actually doing is marketing. I really am trying to get my name out there. I'm I'm uh I'm I've I've ever since I mean that first step into um feeding the unsheltered was just the just the foundation of of what I'm here to do and what I'm really here to do. Because what I when I was hanging out with him about uh six months into COVID, maybe yeah, about six months, um, about August 8th, it was the Lionsgate portal. And he said, I met this shaman lady in Costco. And I said, What? He said, Well, I met the shaman lady in Costco. She wants to go up to Haleyakala and pray for the children. And I was like, he's like, You want to come? I'm like, Yeah, that sounds awesome. And so I grabbed my Jeep, I picked him up. He went up to the top of Haleakala, which is an inactive volcano on Maui, 10,000 feet up. It's a beautiful, beautiful, very sacred place.

SPEAKER_00 18:46

I've been there.

SPEAKER_01 18:47

You been there?

SPEAKER_00 18:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:49

Oh wow, you've been to Maui?

SPEAKER_00 18:51

I didn't know that. Yeah. Oh, right on. It was a dil it was delightful. We were on um Honolulu. That's the big island, right? No. Honolulu's the Oahu. Oahu. So we I was there with Cheryl. Um and her girlfriend at the time. And her parents had a condo in Maui. So we flew over and got to stay for a couple nights. And the best night, they they were like on the third floor of a condo, and you we just kept the doors open and the beautiful breeze from the ocean all night just was hitting my face as I slept on the couch. And then in the morning, we went on the beach and there was just turtles going in this it was weird. It was like a an inlet river, and then the ocean kind of. And the turtles just came in and they were just swimming like so peacefully, huge turtles. I was like, oh my god, this is such an amazing experience. And yeah, and then we went hiking to the um volcano. I couldn't breathe up there though. The air was so thin, I was like, short of breath.

SPEAKER_01 20:00

Yeah, it's it's pretty thin up there, bro. 10,000 feet out, the elevation is pretty heavy for sure.

SPEAKER_00 20:05

I felt it. I didn't think I would feel it as much as I did, but ooh.

SPEAKER_01 20:10

It's cold up there too at night. It's freezing up there. Yeah. I said, Oh, I'm from Massachusetts. Yeah, I I I can handle that. No, no. When the sun goes down, it's freezing.

SPEAKER_00 20:19

And are there uh I could be wrong. Are there like these cactuses called like silver cactuses up there? Yep. Okay, so I'm thinking of that. Okay, so my memory is good.

SPEAKER_03 20:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:31

Yeah, so you were praying, you were praying on the mountain, or you got invited to go pray for the people.

SPEAKER_01 20:36

Yeah. Um, well, it was this shaman is what he called her, and actually she ended up being a temple priestess. And I was just kind of feeling really low and looking, honestly, was looking for my purpose, looking for my passion. What am I here to do? Like, I'm I'm feeding the unsheltered people, I'm in service, and still there's this piece, this missing piece of something's missing. I'm not following my purpose, my passion. What it is that I want to share with the world, you know? And so I was kind of kicking rocks and just kind of feeling a lot, and yeah. And then her name was Jessica St. Michelle and uh she came up to me and she sat down next to me and she put her hand on my leg and she looked at me deep into my soul. And she said, Tell me. I was like, tell you what. She's like, tell me. I was like, uh I have a lot of sexual energy. And she said, Yeah, I can tell. I was like, Really? She goes, Yeah, I can help you. I was like, what? I can help you. Uh okay. Here's my business card. What are you doing Thursday at 4 p.m.? I have no idea. Great, I'll see you Thursday at 4 p.m. Okay. So Thursday came along and she showed up at my house at 4 p.m. And uh I don't know how graphic you can get on your uh podcast here. Um but as graphic as you want to get, brother.

SPEAKER_00 22:12

Sweet. Let's grow. Okay. I'm gonna be real. Okay, so um I'm thinking a lot of things right now. All right, continue on.

SPEAKER_01 22:21

Let's grow. All right. So um it's just kind of it's out there for some people, but it's literally something that changed my life, and it's actually what I it's actually what I'm here to do. So um, so I I I she came into my house and I'm thinking all sorts of things. I'm like, well, what the hell is this woman doing in my house? And she sits down next to me. She goes, okay, so this is what's gonna happen. She's like, I'm gonna give you a sensual bodywork massage. And I said, sweet. She goes, yeah, I'm gonna give you a lingam massage and I'm gonna I'm gonna sensually massage your body. And I said, sweet, awesome. And she's like, Yeah, there's only one condition. I was like, what? She goes, you can't release your seed. And I said, why not? And she said, trust me, you just can't, you just listen to me. You can't touch my body unless you ask permission, and you can't release your seed. Those are the rules. And I said, Okay, I'm down, I'm I'll I'll check it out, sure, why not? So she starts essentially massaging my body, and she gets down and she she starts massaging my lingam. Like I've never had a massage before. Um and she, I'm not gonna lie to you.

SPEAKER_00 23:28

What is she massaging?

SPEAKER_01 23:29

Lingham, penis, cock, whatever you want. Yeah, lingam is the professional tantra word for a penis.

SPEAKER_00 23:36

Did I did not know that? I was thinking you were talking about your grundle. Okay, I'll stop talking. That might not be the right word for that, but okay.

SPEAKER_01 23:46

Oh, yeah. Thank you for saying that. I'm glad I'm sure a lot of people that are probably watching this is like, what is a lingam?

SPEAKER_00 23:52

Um I thought maybe slang for your penis, but I just wanted to make sure. It is, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:57

It's it's pretty much Tantra slang for a penis, I guess you could say. Okay, yeah, cool. All right. Yeah, you totally got it. Um, so she edged me for about an hour. An hour. I was literally on the edge of releasing my C, my whole body's shaking and convulsating, and I'm just having this crazy experience. And all she's doing is massaging it and moving energy from the bottom of my pelvis to my heart. And she just keeps telling me, take a deep breath. Ah, take a deep breath. And she just keeps moving the energy up with my breath, keeping me in my body while I'm literally on the edge of, you know, releasing my seed. And she just keeps telling me to breathe, keep telling me to breathe for an hour. And I'm literally having like a full-body seizure at this point. All I want to do is release my seed. And then she tells me to take one more deep breath, and she literally blasts this energy through my crown, through my head. And I have this out-of-body ayahuasca, colorful, wild, full-body, energetic orgasm that you cannot even imagine, bro. It was insane. And I was like, what the? And I eventually I came back into my body, it felt like, and I looked around and I didn't release my seed, yet I had this crazy amazing experience, this full body energetic orgasm. And I was like, what the fuck was that? And she's like, that's what you're gonna do for women, and that's what you're gonna teach men how to do. And I was like, What? She goes, That's what you're here to teach men how to do. I'm like, uh, she says, I'll see you next week. So literally for three months, this woman worked, worked on me, um, would give me those experiences pretty much every week. Um, if not that, she would teach me how to massage her body and give her that give like woman that experience, taught me how to do breast massage, taught me how to move energy throughout my body, circulate energy through my body. She taught me about different energy centers and um taught me a lot about the about sexuality in Tantra. And um, and then she took off to Peru and she sent me to the mainland to go to several Tantra schools and got certified in Tantra, and then came back to Maui and worked with several other Taoist masters and different priestesses and priests, men and women, and just kept diving into this sexuality because that it there's it's something that's really unconscious, and a lot of men are unaware of their of how powerful those their sexual energy is. And um, so that's that's what I kind of embarked on that mission of really embodying that. Um yeah, and yeah, that's that's that story. I'll stop there and let you ask any questions.

SPEAKER_00 26:42

That was an amazing story. I have no how do I ask a question? I've got no questions, just keep telling me more.

SPEAKER_01 26:51

Well, so after I embarked on that journey, um, I got a girlfriend, and I was I was honestly giving central bodywork for women on the island. I was giving them uh Tantra bodywork massages, I was giving them yoni massages, I was giving them breast massages, I was working with women directly with sexual trauma, providing a space in which woman could finally feel what it is like to be held by a man and have all of the attention and all the pleasure and all the love be directed right towards them and actually literally honor the goddess, give a space for a woman to be honored and have none of the pleasure and none of the attention and none of the touch beyond me, just on them. Because a lot of women haven't been able, haven't had that experience of a man truly honoring a woman without any without any of the pleasure being on them. It's usually about the man because a lot of men, including myself, many times I get in my head and it's all about, you know, the money shot. It's always about the the you know the the um the releasing the seed and all that. And once we release our seed, we're kind of you know deflated of desire. We don't really want to do anything else, and it's kind of, you know, so I gave that experience to woman and I learned a lot. Um learned a lot about the trauma that women experienced. I learned a lot about um a lot about women and about sexuality and about the polarities of the masculine and feminine, and it was pretty wild. And then when I got a girlfriend, I kind of got sad sidetracked a little bit because I thought I I wanted to, you know, be in a relationship and all that. And it was hard to be in a relationship while you're doing that for women, you know. So I kind of dropped that and I kind of got off track. And then when me and her broke up later, I kind of went back into it. Um, not sensual body work, but I was like, I've learned so much about relationship. I've learned so much about divine union, about, you know, the masculine and feminine polarities, about my own sexuality, about connecting with a woman in that way, whether it's in service or in a relationship, in devotion to the goddess. And I just learned so much and I want to teach this to men. And so I started hosting workshops on the island uh for men and teaching them how to become multi-orgasmic and how to circulate their energy and move this overwhelming sexual raw desire and move it to um throughout every cell in our body so that it can be transmuted into more higher energy, more spiritual energy, more full body energy, and and get it so it's not trapped in the genitals and we're only using it for lust, we can actually use it for creation and we can expand our tiny little genital orgasm into a full-body energetic orgasm, like I explained with the woman. Because after that experience with her, I just it was I just I couldn't go back to the way I was orgasming before. I was like, if this is possible, if this much pleasure is possible, if this much expansion, and I just, dude, I exploded. I was like, there's this there's something to this. I can't go back to the way I used to be. I I there I just gotta keep studying this stuff. And I'm just really passionate about it. And so I just continued to teach men, but again, I didn't go online, I didn't really share much. I shared a little bit here and there, but I never really resonated with online. I didn't really like the cell phones, I didn't reject it, but I just didn't. I I honestly I don't really know. I I'm I'm just learning how to build my business, and I don't really know how to market myself, how to and then I had the friends that I had on Facebook were all from Massachusetts, and I would think that they would make fun of me. I had a lot of judgment on myself, and I didn't think that they would accept me for this kind of passion and purpose that I was doing.

SPEAKER_00 30:37

Um never fear the judgment. Yeah, I know. And I get that sense from you lately. That's kind of how we reconnected. You I saw you were not fearing the judgment, and you were, and I think marketing is storytelling. So I think you telling your story is the right way to go. Yeah, man. Thank you for that.

SPEAKER_01 30:55

Yeah, totally. Yeah, and then I've just been trying to be like everybody else and um and just trying to perform. And I've I noticed that a lot of my life has been about performing and not so much being my authentic self. And that's kind of when I fell into my my next purpose and passion, which was alphabiotics. And so I got into this relationship again, and we traveled all over South America together, and we landed back on Maui for a month, and she was experiencing lower back pain for over 10 years, and nothing worked. Uh, she was about to get a needle put in her back that morning. And uh these this couple came up to our doorstep and offered her an alphabetic alignment. And she said, I don't know what that is, but I'm in so much pain, just do what you gotta do. And so they gave her her an alignment, so simple, just a quick one-two, you know, kind of like it looked, it looks like an adjustment, but it's not an adjustment because we're not manipulating the body. We're just sending a high sensory input to the back of the brain to kind of reboot the computer, you know, like when your computer starts glitching out, you press the reset button, reboots your brain, reboots the nervous system, and then the body can heal itself. And I can go a lot deeper into that later, but um she got on the table, they gave her an alignment, and her body literally lifted off the table, and the back pain was lifted immediately. And I was like, what is that? I want to learn how to do that. And so they said, Well, that we're having a training right now in Nevada City. I said, Great. So I moved to Shasta, I moved to Nevada City, and I've been there for the past year and a half learning alphabiotics. And so now I'm alphabiotic certified. Um, I now work with the brain and the nervous system. And then again, because it always does, the sexuality piece came right back in again. With alphabiotics, I also learned this spinal maintenance practice called edu, which is a brain balancing practice. Um, it's a spinal maintenance practice that strengthens the spine, it lubricates all the muscles and joints in the spine, it balances the left and right hemispheres of the brain and calms the nervous system. It's like qigong and kundalini mix. It's freaking so cool. Uh, a lot of bilateral movements. It's just, it's a really cool, fluid, easy practice that anyone can do. You can even do it sitting in a chair, and it's really powerful. And so I learned that as well in Nevada City. And when I moved back to the island, again, the sexuality piece came in. I said, Oh my God, I can literally give alphabiotic alignments and teach men how to do edu, and that would be so beneficial. And they could learn the sexuality piece so much quicker and so much easier. Because the one thing that there's there's a few different aspects in which a man needs to embody or even start to begin his sexual journey. The first part is relaxing the pelvic floor. A lot of us have a tight pelvic floor, especially when we're in an aroused state. When we're in an aroused state, our pelvic floor tightens, which causes us to ejaculate. But if your pelvic floor doesn't tighten, you don't ejaculate. So it's all about relaxing the pelvic floor. The second aspect is a weak spine. If you have a weak spine, the spine is what is the channel that we use in order to move the sexual energy upward. If you have a weak spine or it's not straight and balanced and flexible, it's gonna be really hard to move your sexual energy. And three, um, a regulated nervous system. You need a regulated nervous system and a balanced brain in order to do these practices. Um, for years, I practiced qigong and meditation and yoga and all these different practices uh that took me years to practice just to regulate my nervous system enough so I can actually do what the tantra lady did to me. It took me years to figure this out. And what I found out is the alphabiotics balances the brain and nervous system, and the edu strengthens the spine, balances the brain, and calms the nervous system. And I was like, oh my God, I can teach this to men, and they can learn 50 times faster than what I ever learned. And so I put all these practices together, all the Taoist practices that I learned, all the meditation and breath work that I that I learned, all of the tantra skills that I've learned, and um, and then I added it to Edu, the spinal maintenance practice and the um and uh alphabiotics if we're in person together. And I came up with the masterpiece method. And that's what I call it. I call it the masterpiece method. And it's a body-based system that teaches men how to absorb their mind in their body and move their sexual energy with their breath, balance their brain, regulate their nervous system, and strengthen their spine so that they could take that overwhelming, raw sexual desire and transmute it into calm, grounded, purpose-driven alchemy.

SPEAKER_00 35:57

So like your target market would be uh men who probably are addicted to porn, uh men who are probably um because of the porn addiction or what or or maybe I'm getting this wrong, might have uh like a low energy or low drive to be successful, or their um or they w yeah, men who want to uh feel the not ecstasy, but want to elevate their what life or or their energy. Yeah, it's it's it's for I mean, who who are you help who do you want to help?

SPEAKER_01 36:39

I want to help, I mean, I would love to help any man that is interested in expanding their awareness on their sexual energy altogether.

SPEAKER_00 36:51

Um men that maybe I'm asking, like, what are their pain points?

SPEAKER_01 36:55

Yeah, I think you're about to say it. Okay, their their pain points are I mean, if you want to get if you just a lot of a lot of men are kind of because behind okay, so this is what my what my temple priestess said because she works with men all over the world, and she said that we have these really successful men that are dressed nice, they make money, they're ballers, they look like players in the freaking club, they got it all together, they got the nice car, they're super confident, they got money, they're super successful. But as soon as that bedroom door closes, they turn into a 12-year-old little boy. And that's what she told me. And it and it really shocked me because that's honestly who I was. I used to masturbate nine times a day, dude. I used to watch porn, I used to masturbate several times a day. I would do it and I was addicted to masturbation. And then whenever I was in the bedroom with a woman, I wouldn't know what to do. I I I mean, I would know what to do. I I'd obviously have sex with her, but I I it's almost like as soon as I got aroused, I went into this fight or flight state and I got stuck in my head, and it was so mental that I wasn't in my body, I wasn't in my heart, and I wasn't really having the full experience of what it is to be with a woman. And so when I No connection, no connection at all, exactly. No, no breath, no presence, no connection. Um, and I just I've noticed God.

SPEAKER_00 38:24

Do you think that's drilled into us uh from an early age because of social media, porn, or the way men are portrayed in the media, or just like yeah, are we losing ourselves as men? Maybe we used to know that and and we're losing it because we're disconnected from the universe.

SPEAKER_01 38:46

Hmm. Yeah, great question. I honestly think that from you know, I'll speak from my personal experience when I was 12 years old. The only knowledge that I had about sex was porn. The only thing I knew, the only knowledge or information that I could get on sex was porn. And porn is not teaching you how to make love, it's teaching you how to fuck. It's it's teaching you how to have unconscious, raw, fast, fight or flight, amygdala-based, or like sex. It's not conscious, it's not fake, fake sex. Exactly. It's a movie, it's it's literally a show, and then it's all about performance and it's all about the who's got the bigger cock, who's better in bed, who's who can who can make a girl come the fastest, or you know, it's like all this performance competitive thing. And what I've really learned is that women don't want the bigger cock, they don't want a man that's in their head, they don't want, they don't really even care about uh a lot of things that men think they care about. All they want is presence and they want to be honored as the woman that they are, and and they want slowness. And yes, a woman loves the primal sometimes, of course. Like, you know, we're men and it's it's primal, it's beautiful, but it's a dance between the two. It's not just one or the other. It's it's and if and a lot of the times what I noticed for myself is I would get in my head and it would be all about um rushing to the finish line. Or I would be thinking, oh my god, don't release your seed. I hope I don't come too fast. Like that's another thing is like a lot of men have erectile dysfunction, or they come really fast. They they they release their seed way too fast.

SPEAKER_00 40:25

Um and my wife is gonna be looking at me after when she listens to this, she's gonna be giving me the look like.

SPEAKER_01 40:34

Yeah. And so what I mean, basically, what this is is it's it's it's it's it's an offer that I want to make to men because it just helps us to slow down in the bedroom, helps us be more conscious. And I can't express it enough that I've even talked to men that know Tantra, that know about the how powerful the sexual energy is, that are conscious of their sexual energy. And even those men don't even don't know how to really circulate that energy throughout their whole body. Because a lot of the sexual practices that are taught by Mantuk Chia, that are taught by Tantra schools, and then taught by most people, even in Kundalini yoga, they teach how to squeeze the pelvic floor, how to lock all these bandas and breathe really, really hard and squeeze and really like force the energy up their spine and never bring it back down. So it gets really heady. Um, it gets really uh just overwhelming. Um, and it's honestly not really healthy for our bodies either. And so what I teach is very different. It's it's how we can relax into the pelvic floor, not squeezing anything, just moving the energy with our mind and body awareness and how to have these breathing practices so that we can stay more calm and present and move the energy effortlessly, not with willpower effortlessly. You know, I don't teach practices that you're gonna have like right now. I don't I don't use any of the practices that I teach. I don't. I just breathe and I literally have an orgasm just by breathing. Just by breathing. I can literally move that energy. I don't even need a hard-on. I don't need I can just breathe and have an orgasm. It's that easy. It's it's it's but the practices help at first to help to help reprogram and recondition the mind on what sex means altogether and get us out of that fight or flight response where our muscles tighten up and our hips tighten and um we and then our the energy gets trapped in the genitals and it can't move. Imagine the best feeling orgasm you've ever had in your life and how great it feels when you're right at the edge. And usually what we do is we tighten our hips, we kind of stretch our feet out and we curl our toes and we oh, and then we release our seed. Now imagine what would happen if you didn't curl your toes, you didn't tighten up your hips, and you kept really, really conscious with your breath, and your hips were to open, and you had the mind-body awareness, you were fully in your body, and you were just breathing really slowly, and you took that crazy amount of energy and effortlessly moved it throughout every cell in your body so that your body can hold even more energy, so that the orgasm builds and builds and builds and builds and builds. The genitals can only hold a tiny amount of pleasure. Your body can hold infinite amounts of pleasure. So it gets higher and higher and higher and higher and higher. And then the orgasms that you're able to have are just fucking astronomical. And it's not about the pleasure. That's just how I got to the door. When I first learned about this, it was all about the pleasure because that's all I cared about. But once I crossed that threshold, I noticed it wasn't about the pleasure. Now I'm not even focused on sex. I'm focused on creation. I'm focused on more direction, my purpose. And I'm just lit up because this energy is not trapped in my genitals, something that I need to release all the time. It's something that I move throughout my whole body. Body and just feel live. It's life force energy.

SPEAKER_00 44:03

It's what creates life, you know? Something I always ask in my, you know, like with a client or with, you know, what is the promised land for the customer or the client? So would the promise land for people working with you be to um find a partner and like get married and have kids and and have like a mutual connection with one person? Or what does the promised man promised land look like with someone who would wanna who you could connect with and help them?

SPEAKER_01 44:35

I honestly feel like we all have different values. You know, there's so many different men out there and so many different, you know, ways of living. Some people want to get married and have children, other people want to be polyamorous and have multiple relationships. Other people just, you know, they're so they're in a place in their life where they're just feeling like they lost themselves and they don't really know where to go from here. And they're just, they don't even want a partner. They want passion, they want purpose, they want a mission, they want to find themselves, they want to love themselves before they even get into a relationship. And so I don't really focus on, you know, it's different for everybody, you know. I I can, I, I, I definitely resonate with the divine union and the sacred partnership, um, and can definitely help men in being in learning how to communicate with a woman, learning how to touch a woman, how to honor the goddess, how to um be more present with a partner, of course. And I honestly, the first step in even stepping into that place with a woman, we need to step back into our own temple and learn how to move our energy with ourselves first and then move into partnership. And if we already are in a partnership, there's ways to have practices on your own and, you know, then bring them into the partner and you guys working on them together, of course. So what I'm saying is there's no specific, I work with partners, I work with finding divine union, I work with whatever, wherever the man's at, I just want to help them be able to take this raw, uncontrollable, overwhelming desire that needs to be released all the time and teach them how to move it out of their genitals to transmute it into more creative spiritual energy that brings so much more pleasure and purpose into their life.

SPEAKER_00 46:17

So it could be anyone, really. It could be a professional who has their life together, it could be someone who's dealing with depression or someone who has anxiety, uh, someone who's scared to come out of their shell and be themselves. Um Dude, this is awesome, man. This is fun.

SPEAKER_03 46:35

Yeah. This is gonna be wild.

SPEAKER_00 46:37

People are gonna listen to this and really uh are gonna be dialed in because everything you said is just it's things I've never heard before. But it it does make sense. And you know, I start what you're saying, I start comparing it to my life, you know. Um and yeah, I can't help but think like someone who's struggling and and you know, you start to teach them the yin and yang not teach them yin and yang, but just like help them uh have a different philosophy on uh the energy that they have and the way they can live their life and they can make changes, you know. Do you yeah, it's you know You said you were almost married, right?

SPEAKER_01 47:22

I almost was. I'm not anymore. I'm uh right now currently single. Um I uh was seeing a woman here, but I honestly we got to a point where I noticed that I needed to build my own foundation of finances and purpose and passion and really take that to the next level before I ended up and before I end up moving into into partnership. I really feel like it's very important for a man to have his mission and purpose grounded before he steps into partnership because a man without purpose and passion and mission is there there is a feeling of something missing. And then they and then they search for that in their partner, and then the partner has to leave and and abandon her feminine and and be in her masculine, which is that it messes up the polarities, you know. It's and so for us to really step into our masculine role is to the first step is to have our foundation, you know, is to have our purpose and to have our mission. And um, and I do believe sexual energy, like I said, is the is is it's like the foundation because it drives us, you know. I I remember when I was, I remember just just just like six or seven years ago, it doesn't matter what I was doing, if there was a pair of boobs outside, I would what? You know, like I would I would just run outside, you know. If I got a text message and some girl wanted to have sex, I would drop everything I'm doing and I would go and do that. You know, it's if there was like a really attractive woman that wanted me sexually and wanted to give me whatever it is that she was giving me, I I would pretty much choose that almost over over anything. It it's it's it's what drives us as men. It's this overwhelming desire for this this primal, and it's not bad. It's fucking awesome to have that energy. But when it but when it controls your life and it's overwhelming, and or the other end of it where we're repressing it and we're suppressing it and we're not expressing it, either way is is just it's it's chaos waiting to happen. It's you're distracting yourself, you know? I've also I've also dealt with the whole suppression part too, where I wasn't even thinking about my sexual energy. I was just suppressing it. And that's dangerous because if we suppress our sexual energy, that's mother, that that's nature, that's mother nature. That's that's life force energy. That shit's gonna come up eventually. And when it does, it's gonna come up unconscious, anger, frustration, unregulated emotions. It comes out in in depression, it comes out in like various forms of emotional turmoil. And that's what I experience too is drowning and in this suppression of my sexual energy. And I've it lived in the desire realm, you know, it's it's it's just really interesting to live on both sides.

SPEAKER_00 49:56

You're I feel like teaching men how to be men, you know, if someone's locked in the basement playing video games and eating uh Papoginos, so how are you gonna, you know, list off the three things you talked about? You know, finding a mission, uh, did you say providing for your significant other equally so that they don't have to take in the masculine or uh take over all the responsibilities that you, the man, should have shared equally with her, but instead you're a 12-year-old boy when the door closes, even though you might look like a man on the outside.

SPEAKER_03 50:29

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 50:30

Totally. Yeah, and it's it's just it's it's really it all comes down to it it all starts with it I really do feel like it's it's a few different things, right? You know, it's it's our diet, it's our connection to our sexual energy, and our dysregulated nervous system. If we're stressed out, if we're in a stressed state, our brain is not balanced and we're our nervous system is jacked up, we're gonna be unhealthy, our body's gonna be in pain, and we're gonna make decisions that we wouldn't normally make, and we're gonna try to live in the portion of our brain, which is the fight or flight, the amygdala, and we're always gonna be avoiding pain and seeking pleasure. Always. But it's only when we move into the executive center, the prefrontal cortex, where balance lives, that we actually truly drop into our heart, that place of purpose and passion and drive, that we truly become the masterpiece of life itself. I really do believe it starts with diet and a regulated nervous system and a balanced brain. I really do believe those are the things. And that's kind of what I teach is balanced brain, calm uh regulated nervous system, strong spine, conscious connection to our sexual energy. And I'm also, you know, on this whole journey, the the woman that I was seeing that we're still really good friends, and we're we're we're literally seeing each other every day. I fucking love her more than anything. She's so beautiful and has really took me on the path of of um detox and health regenerative. She's a health regenerative coach. And um she got me, I I've been on nothing but fruit for about 40 days now. And um, I've literally been healing myself through the fruit. Um, the fruit has been a huge game changer for me. It's really changed my life. And uh yeah, my skin is radiating. I I I just feel so strong and in my body and aware and conscious and grounded and just beautiful. And um, and then after those 40 days, she showed she was showing me pictures. And this is a woman that hasn't eaten meat since she was 12. She was on a 21-day water fast, mind you, and 10 years of fruit. So she's probably really healthy, right? You wouldn't think that she has parasites or worms or any you know thing going on in here because she takes care of herself. No, she went on a 90-day juice cleanse after the 21-day water fast, and the stuff that was coming out of her on day 35 were these giant long worms and these parasites and these alien-looking things that are in our bodies that are causing addictions and depression and pain and disease and illness and all these things that we don't even we're not even aware of. We just go and eat whatever we eat and say whatever we say and feel whatever we feel, and we're just living life how it is. But it's there's so there's and so when I saw those pictures, I said, if that's in you, I wonder what would be in me. Oh my god, I want to experience this. So here I am doing the 90-day juice cleanse to figure it out and feel it out for myself. And so that's something I want to add to the mastermie's method eventually, um, that she's taken care of now. Uh, but I want to, I'm learning from her right now and really wanting to add that to the the training of um how we can come up with protocols and a diet that can work for a man to optimize not only his brain, spine, and nervous system, but to also optimize his health and because we are what we eat, you know? And so it's how challenging is that the juice is that for you, yeah. It's not challenging at all, honestly. Um, not right now, um, in this moment. I'm only on day three of the juice. The fruits were a little challenging at first, I will say, because the body is so addicted to density, you know, like heaviness, like density. And so that's one thing I it really took, it took a will, it took a while um to get through that threshold. And what I would give advice to anybody wanting to take the fruit journey, and the reason why the fruits don't work for a lot of people is because they don't know how to do it. There's a way to do it. You don't just dive in and eat all the fruits that you want and and feel good. It's you don't want to mix fruits first of all. A lot of people mix a lot of different fruits. And when you mix a lot of different fruits, it's comp it it compromises, and the digestive system is so complex that you just feel like shit and you it's not working. And then you're like, oh, this doesn't work for me. And people fall off, you know. Another mistake people make is they eat a lot of bananas or they eat a lot of non-organic fruit. They eat crap, they eat like these dry fruits, dates, bananas. They eat um a lot of. I mean, that's the ones that really got me was when I was eating a lot of bananas, because bananas um get you constipated. And so the rule of thumb is just to, you know, eat mostly watery fruits throughout your day, throughout the beginning of the day. So I was eating nothing but oranges. And then the amount of fruit, I was eating like 12, 15 oranges for breakfast at first. Um, it was wild. I'm like, how do I like it? It blew my mind how much fruit I was consuming. And uh, she would always tell me, no, keep eating. Like, eat until you're full because you're working through the addiction to that density that you're so used to, you know? And um, and then after, I mean, after a few weeks, I felt fucking, I felt amazing, bro. And then after the 40 days, I saw those pictures and I said, well, the next step is a 90-day juice cleanse. And it's different for everybody, you know, I'm not pushing this on anybody. Everybody has their own path and all the things. And I'm just here for truth and I'm here to experience life at its fullest. And if that's if if the juice can do something as profound as what she's talking about, I can't help but to dive in and find out for myself. So I'm documenting it on my Instagram right now. I'm taking videos every day so that people can watch my juice cleanse journey and uh before and after pictures and different, you know, conversations about um sexuality and about cleansing and about how I'm feeling and how I'm processing emotions. And it's just this wild journey of emotions and sexuality and um and uh in and juice and the island and talking about those different fruits. It's pretty cool, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:45

Yeah. Uh what other what hobbies you got going on? Do you make any music? Do you go surfing a lot?

SPEAKER_01 56:53

Right now, right now, honestly, I've been so focused on just getting my name out there, making content. Um, I have a beautiful property here with a pool and a hot tub. I like to go swimming sometimes, but the property is so beautiful and I love the place that I'm staying. It's surrounded by fruit trees, and so it's got a gorgeous view of the ocean. And so mainly what I do is just serve the people. I give alphabiotic alignments to people three days a week, and um drinking a lot of juice. I was eating a lot of fruit.

SPEAKER_00 57:30

And I mean, yeah, it seems like this is your hobby, is this, you know, how much you're studying, how much you're involved, involved in learning, and and now you're putting that content out and trying to teach other people and just tell your story to the world. So that is the hobby, you know.

SPEAKER_01 57:47

That's my hobby, dude. I mean, if I'm not in service and I'm not following my purpose and passion and mission, is really, I mean, I don't really want to do anything else. And that's kind of why I've been depressed for most of my life and smoking so much weed. And I dude, I literally smoked weed and tobacco every day of my life, dude, because I was distracting myself. I feel like the reason why a lot of us drink so much and smoke so much, because there's something that wants to be birthed through us and we don't know what that is, and we don't, we're afraid to sit in the emptiness because the emptiness is so uncomfortable and it's so scary. And there's so many parts of us that we're so scared of that are so emotionally dysregulated and angry and depressed, and we don't want to feel that. So we keep distracting ourselves with substances and we run away from our problems, and and and then we just and then we wonder why we're depressed and we're in pain and we're we're not doing anything with our lives, and it's because it's a it's a lack of purpose. But that purpose I'm not a you know.

SPEAKER_00 58:41

Oh, go ahead. I'm j I'm not a fan of the marijuana industry being like I don't mind if someone can wants to smoke and grow it, but to like have it marketed at every street corner, I I think it's detrimental to community and to young kids. Oh, totally. But I think you do need to leave it behind at some point um to move forward and become a man or uh become connected back to, you know, I don't think that's something you want to do for your whole life. But a lot of people do, a lot of people are fine with it. I'm not against it, uh, but I don't like it that it's like legal legalized. I think it should be d I think people should be able to have it freely and have what they want freely, but I don't think it should be like put in, be taxed, and I don't know. I don't know enough about it. I just don't like seeing kids vaping and like you know, kids are gonna vape anyways because it's a cool thing to do. You go to a party, you drink, you vape, you smoke cigarettes, you smoke weed. But to like people uh glamorize it like it's the best thing in the world. And it's like actually the best thing in the world is like to wake up early with the sun and to look at your kids or to be with friends. And that is like the true, like that's true happiness is to go do a hobby when you don't need a crutch. Like, yeah, if if it's like once a year and it's a spiritual thing and you're like, okay, I'm gonna smoke and I'm gonna make some music, and but you're not gonna wake up in the morning, and and the same with like masturbation, you're not gonna do it in the morning and then the afternoon, you're never gonna have the desire to move on and to learn or to create what you've had in your mind because you're gonna just be a step behind.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:30

Always, man. Always.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:32

But I'm not I don't have the answers. I'm not a guru, I'm not you know, I just like you said earlier, you said I'm just gonna explain my experience with it, and then hopefully people listen to it and could take from what I've said and and uh lear learn from it or like take take it at what's the the phrase, take what you want from it, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:56

Yeah, just you know, I the the wise Buddha always said, or always did, or always didn't do, he healed people with just his presence. He didn't say anything, he didn't have to say much, he just sat and that's it. It's your presence alone. You are the lighthouse. Embody the wisdom, embody the presence, be in your heart, and and and and that's it. That's all it is. It's all we that's the best thing you can do, is just do it for yourself. I feel like a lot of people try to, you know, they're they're so, and that's another thing. It's like it's living in the extremes, right? There's so many people not knowing their purpose and passion and mission in life, and they're totally depressed eating papaginos in their freaking basement, playing video games, and then you have the opposite of people that are literally so addicted to being of service to other people that they're killing themselves in the process of overdoing it. And because they're avoiding something themselves and they're trying to heal people when they themselves haven't even healed yet. And so it's like it's this balance of we got to take care of ourselves first, and then from that taking care of ourselves, we naturally take care of others, you know?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:03

That's why and as like I obviously have three kids, so being present is the usually the fix. All right, put the phone away so they can't see it. Don't think about work for a second. Um, don't, you know, and just look at your kids and be present with them for a little bit, and that usually fixes whatever's going on. And yeah, we can I can feel get disconnected sometimes, you know, with life and stuff. Forget like what it's like to be a kid before all this technology, you know. And parents were more more present. I know I feel like in the eighties and nineties, you know, even just being able to go out with your friends for the whole day and then just come home at the end of the day, you know, your parents didn't really know what you did. I'm sure you had that experience too. Oh yeah, totally. And then like sitting down for a dinner or a movie, and you're present because you didn't even have a phone. And now if you sit down to do that, you're not present because you have this device connected to you.

unknown 1:03:04

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:06

Yeah, these things, man, I'm telling you, it's these things are so they're taking over society, you know?

SPEAKER_00 1:03:12

And the kids have I think you're you're right though. How do you do social media in a positive way? And I think the way you have to teach uh people how to use social media or in a positive light is you can't doom scroll and you have to create something and share it. Like if you're creating and putting stuff out there, your hobby, like you're talking about, is the creation process. And then you're so happy and eager to share it because it's it's just you you have a community that's gonna join in on either they're gonna say you're crazy, or they're gonna say, I really like your ideas. Both are good, yin and yin, like you're talking about. I want the negative feedback, but I want the positive feedback too. If I have no feedback, then maybe you get anxiety, you start to fear, well, and you don't want to fear the judgment either, right? Like post your truths.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:11

And it's also the pride aspect, too. And that's what I found myself I found myself in a couple days ago, you know, because I don't have food to eat. I'm not even eating fruit, I'm not smoking. So literally the only other distraction that I have is this guy, and I'm posting content and I'm finding myself scrolling because there's nothing else to do. And that this is the practice when you said do you have a hobby? My hobby is trying to do my best to let myself dissolve into everything, letting myself fully dissolve into the nothing, letting myself completely immerse myself in the not doing to allow myself to truly be at peace with myself, simply just being with myself and from that place of stillness, from that place of being being okay with being alone, being okay with being in silence, being okay with not doing anything, not eating anything, not distracting, not suppressing, not expressing, just simply being is such a practice, dude. And I found myself on my phone a lot the other day, and I noticed my nervous system just feeling so dysregulated because I'm drinking nothing but juice. I'm so sensitive right now. Everything is like so sensitive. So I'm noticing my nervous system, and then I just went for a run and I came back and just laid on the floor and started breathing, and then I just started bawling my eyes out and crying. And I noticed what I was distracting myself from was crying, was an emotional wave that was coming up that wanted to be released that I was suppressing. And I've spent most of my life doing that. Oh, something's coming up. I don't know, but all I've all I've been taught is to smoke. All I've been taught is to eat, you know, all I've been taught is to watch TV, all I've been taught is to type, all I've been taught is to go hang out with my friends. But what I haven't been taught was breathe and sit and be and relax and let it come up because it's It's safe and it's okay. But we were never taught that our emotions are safe and okay. We were taught that they were wrong, they were too much, they were you know, whatever people were taught what emotions were. So that's been my practice lately is simply just finally allowing myself to be and feel if you were what uh animal do you feel like you're most closely related to?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:23

A tiger. If you had a tiger, yeah. I see that.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:27

Uh I've always what animal do you think I am?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:30

Uh bear.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:32

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:33

Yeah. Or uh uh a lemur.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:39

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:40

I don't know. What but what element?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:43

What kind of s if I was a soda, what soda would I be?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:46

Uh 7 Up for sure. Nice. Yeah. Yeah, you're just cool like that, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:52

You would be a um, what was that 90s soda with the iguana logo? Zobie? Oh, Zobie, yeah, dude. Z Z-O-B-E?

SPEAKER_01 1:07:03

Is that Z-O-B-E with a little apostrophe up there?

SPEAKER_00 1:07:06

Or you'd be like a clearly Canadian.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:11

Yes, uh.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:13

Oh, I mean, I won't keep you much longer, but um, yeah, we had some good times. Uh, I think we, you know, we'd go to Kenichi, we would just like we I think we only hung out one-on-one maybe once, and it was at your apartment. When did you live on Shrewsbury Street? I did with Elliot, I believe. Oh, so maybe we were just all hanging out.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:36

Yeah, we were all hanging out, I believe. Or maybe no, Shrewsbury Street. Maybe I was on Shrewsbury Street. I was on Shrewsbury Street, yes. And then I moved out of that place and moved in with Elliot, and we lived over on uh I don't remember the name of it. But yeah, I think we did hang out that one time. Yeah, we never really got to hang out that much. Um, but whenever we were at work together, you were always the to me, you were always that chill, cool guy, just you know, laid back. You don't want any problems, you don't make any problems, you're just getting along with everybody, and you're just doing your thing, and you were really funny, and I really enjoyed your presence, to be honest.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:13

I felt really safe. I was I was thank you, man. Um, I loved your energy, but yeah, I was going to school. I didn't go to college till I was 25. So I was going to school all morning, and then I was just waiting tables after that and trying to find my I still feel like I haven't I mean I found my way, I you know, but back then I was like, oh, if I go to college, I'll graduate and get a good job. And then I graduated and nothing, and then I was like, oh, if I go get my master's degree, I'll graduate and uh get a good job. And then I graduated from and I got my master's degree, and I was so depressed walking from my last exam to my car. I was like, I don't think this did anything.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:57

Oh, dude, so many people feel like that for sure with college because it's so it's so programmed into us that you know it's just that's just the way you go from high school. If you don't go to college, you're not gonna make anything of your life. You gotta get your bachelor's degree, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta figure out what you're gonna do with your life before your 20s, before your 30s, or else you're a loser kind of thing. I never went to college, dude. I didn't start really finding out what it is that I wanted to do until I mean I'm still figuring it out, dude. We're all figuring it out, and it changes all the time, you know? It really does. It really does.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:28

And you don't need to know. As long as you wake up in the morning and you learn and and you follow a happiness. Imagine like life is so great. Imagine not being happy.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:40

Yeah, and and you know, and that's the thing, man, is I really do feel like the one thing that brings people joy and the one per like is is service. We all just want to be of service. You know, whatever that service is, we just want to be of service because if if we're only focused on ourselves, there's gonna be there's usually a lot of anxiety, there's a lot of worry, there's a lot of judgment and fear, and you know, all these things, and it's like it's a balance, right? It's it's it's it's meeting those parts head on at the same time, what it is that I'm here to give, because it's truly in the giving and the being of service that brings true happiness. I mean, like I said, when I've when I first started being of service and felt fed the unsheltered people, I finally was a part of something bigger than myself. I got out of my own head and my own world and what my needs were, and I was actually helping someone that needed it more than I did at that moment. And it felt it it just it felt so good. And then I and then I started feeling, okay, well, how do I want to be of service to the world though? What are what are the gifts that I want to share with the world? And it can literally be as simple as just what you're doing right now, man. Just literally having conversations with people over over a podcast. That's like the best gift you can give anybody, dude. I was lit up when you told me you want to do a podcast. I've never done a podcast before, you know, I've never put myself out there. This is my first podcast, you know? And so I'm I'm really uh I'm really touched and I feel really seen and really honored and and grateful that you called me on your show today.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:09

I mean, I was once I saw your, I was like, Zach, I wrote I was like, oh, I need to ask him if he'll be on the show. It'd be awesome to catch up. Yes. The old the last thing I was thinking about was so when you were living in your Jeep and and passing food out, what what did that look like like on a day-to-day? Were were you parking at different spots? Like were you using the gym to shower or use the bathroom? Maybe you're just jumping in the ocean, because that's what I would have done.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:36

But yeah, I mean, I lived, dude, I lived in so many different places. When I when you're the one thing I would say is when you're in service to God, God takes care of you. When you're when you when you're in when you're in that state of trust and you're in service, it's God just takes care of you. And so on a day-to-day basis, I honestly I put a tent on top of my Jeep. I spent thousands of dollars um and I spent pretty much most of my money putting a tent on top of my Jeep. So I had it kind of open up like this, and then it kind of throws a little ladder going up to the top. So I would just park at the I would just park in the trees, park, park in between trees. I would park at the beach, and I would just unfold the tent and it would be like a little loft, you know, and I would just and it had a little little pad, and I would just kind of sleep in that all the time. And I would hear the I would wake up to the sunrise every morning, and um, and then I slept on different farms and properties that we worked at.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:32

And um you'd open the zipper, you would yawn, and you would just throw your seed out to the ocean like this, like in uh Bruce Almighty. Yeah, and I'm not making fun of you, I'm just having fun.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:47

No, no, of course. I don't take it first of all. Oh, that's great, that's exactly what I did. I was naked half the time, too, just walking out the beach. Ah, no one's here. You know, it was great.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:57

Local hulli naked again on the beach.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:00

Yeah, for sure, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:01

If I said that right, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:03

Haole.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:05

Hawle.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:06

Hawle, yeah. Yeah. And um honestly, yeah, I um there were um multiple occasions where I didn't know where I was gonna sleep, and it was honestly kind of stressful. And um my Jeep got repossessed at eventually because I was COVID when I bought it, and so they finally took it after two and a half years. And uh, when that happened, I just got myself a van and then I just started sleeping on the beach for a while. I I literally just slept on the beach. And it was one of the most one of the most liberating experiences I think I've ever had was to feel and live the life that a lot of people are afraid to live. They're so focused on working three jobs at a time because they're afraid that they're gonna run out of money and be homeless. That's like one of the biggest fears in the world is whoa God, what if I'm homeless and I'm on the street? It's it's one of the biggest fears. And so I dove into that and lived that life, and I was okay. And so, whenever it kind of liberated me from that fear because now if I ever get into that situation again where I'm running out of money and I don't have a place to stay, I'm just like, okay, well, I'll just sleep on the beach, or I'll just get a tent, or I'll just get a van, or I'll like I'll figure it out. You know, it's it's it's and that's what I'm dropping into right now is like a whole different level of trust, you know, letting go of the food, letting go of just, you know. And right now I don't really have that many clients on Maui right now, and I'm in this beautiful house that I manifested out of thin air. It just came through because life provides, because I have a mission and a passion, and I'm just choosing it and I'm choosing to step in. And I really would love to manifest in this here and now moment, manifest some clients, manifest not only clients, but manifest brothers that are really just wanting to connect and step into that next level of their of themselves. And um, not only just learn how to consciously connect with their sexual energy, but the exercises and the the um the practices that I have are just they honestly just help us be a more embodied, present human being on this earth. There, there's so much fun balancing your brain, regulating your nervous system, strengthening your spine, helping you be more grounded and present in the world. Never mind the bedroom and this pleasure and all that, that's great. But there's just being a human and being able to walk through with a regulated nervous system, a strong spine, a balanced brain, and a lot of love in your heart, and a lot of wisdom, and a lot of it's just I just love working with men and really just connecting with them and and uh meeting them where they're at and seeing what it is in their life that I could help them with. It doesn't have to be that. That's just something that I'm passionate about, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:48

Do you do you think you would ever move back to Mass? No way. No Would you st I you would you move out of Maui to maybe somewhere else? Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:58

I would, I mean, honestly, at this point, bro, I guess I wouldn't answer that quickly. Would I move back to Massachusetts? No, I don't think I would. No. I think now that I'm on the now that I'm on the fruits, I want to live somewhere where there is an abundance of organic, fresh fruits, you know, and so that's why I'm kind of building my online presence right now, and so I can live anywhere in the world. I want to go to Bali, Southeast Asia, um, and I want to be able to do my work out there online and um kind of travel around and just kind of go to Brazil, go to different places that have fruit that are really good fruit, you know. Now, if Massachusetts called me and there was a lot of men over there that need that I could really use my services and I live over there for a little while to really be of service, hell yeah, I would do that. Um, would it be my my personal preference? And when I want to do that, absolutely not. I want to live where it's warm, tropical, fresh organic fruits where I can hang out and be comfortable in my body and have the wind not hurt my face. When I was in Massachusetts, I always told myself, why do I live somewhere where the wind hurts my face?

SPEAKER_00 1:17:09

Um what's the plan for the rest of the day? What time is it there? Like four, three, four thirty?

SPEAKER_01 1:17:14

It's three forty-five. I have a client, uh a brother coming to see me uh about an hour. Uh he's got his daughter visiting, so they're gonna use the hot tub. And um, we're gonna drop in. I'm gonna give him an alignment. And then later I have a woman upstairs right now, my friend, she's making fresh pineapple juice, ginger pineapple juice. So I'm gonna have some of that. And then I'm going to make a recording of day three and how it's been and keep growing.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:42

Oh, so you're just on day three, but you did a cleanse before you did water cleanse?

SPEAKER_01 1:17:48

I did 40 days of nothing but fruit, and now I'm on day three of juice. Yeah, juice. Okay. Now I'm on day three of just nothing but juice. Yeah. Wow.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:00

So did you eat meat prior to this, or are you a vegetarian?

SPEAKER_01 1:18:03

I did, I did, yeah. I've done every I've done pretty much every diet you can think of. I mean, I've done keto, I've done fasting, I've done uh the carnivore diet, I've done, you know, before this, you know, I have a before and after picture I just posted on Instagram. It's pretty wild to see the before and after of just 40 days. Um, because I was eating really clean, really clean, dude. I'm talking like giant, like nice organic salads, kale, red cabbage, some pumpkin seeds, hem, uh, hemp seeds, some like bait, some, some, uh, some dressing, like a nice salad for for breakfast with a few eggs, maybe some steak for breakfast. You know, I like I like to have protein in the morning. Um, and then I wouldn't, and then I would have um uh and then I would have carbs and at lunchtime. I would have some potatoes or some spelt bread with avocado, um, and then a salad as well. And then at nighttime I would have like an apple, you know, ate very clean. My skin was not radiating. I did not have uh, I still had a little bit of a gut and uh inflammation around my body, and I looked okay, you know, I looked good. I just didn't look radiant, you know? And um the before and after of before fruit and after fruit is just it's it's beyond. It's really wild. Uh my Instagram is uh Z-A-C underscore uh McKnight, N-C-K-N-I-G-H-T. And so I'm posting like before and after pictures all the time, and it's just really wild to see how the fruit literally, and that's just the thing that I'm starting to realize. And um in the fruitarian community, a lot of men talk about this, is that the fruit doesn't heal you. The fruit allows your body to work at its most optimal best so that the body can heal itself and the body can express its full expression of life. Because the body is the most magical, beautiful, expressive, amazing, self-healing, self-organizing, self-correcting machine. If we give it exactly what it needs to work less on digesting and pushing out food and more on healing itself and feeling safe and not in fight or flight. You know, there's a there's a man named Dr. Robert Morris, um, and he's a really great guy to check out about the fruit hair, about the fruits. He lived off of uh oranges in his van for six months in the forest. And he healed himself doing that. And uh he he's now a doctor, a naturopathic doctor, and he has a lot of videos talking about uh talking about this, how we're not carnivores, we're not supposed to kill, we're not meant to kill animals, we're not even herbivores, because herbivores usually have multiple stomachs. We only have one stomach, and so the best food for us to eat to bring us to our most optimal best, in his opinion, is fruit. And so there's a lot of different information coming my way with this, and I'm just you know what? I'm just gonna experience it for myself and see how it feels. And so far, I gotta say, I feel freaking awesome.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:02

So keep sharing.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:03

Yeah, dude, this was mad fun.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:06

I appreciate you coming on. Well, thanks, man. Appreciate you, bro. I really appreciate it. What's cool is everyone I've interviewed so far, I've kept in contact with. Oh, wow, that's awesome. It's like I went, you know, back in the day before having a family, I could go to the coffee shop, talk creativity, make music, chill, you know, go get some drinks with people, and then yeah, you get a family and and that kind of gets shut off, which is great. I do that now with my family. But um, ever since starting this, this has been a way to have friends again, you know, outside of my family. Which is great because I'm learning more, I'm connecting with and I even like, you know, we there's things to do now, like, oh look, my friend had a 40th birthday party, so me and my wife went, you know?

SPEAKER_01 1:21:52

Wow. That's awesome, man. What kind of music are you producing right now? What what do you what are you uh what's your genre?

SPEAKER_00 1:21:58

I always said I wanted to drop a rap album when I turned 40, even though I'm, you know, uh no rapping skill really, but just the act of like, okay, I'm gonna get some beats together, I'm gonna write some rhymes or some songs, and then I'm gonna record it, and obviously I'll film it, but it's not the act of like I'm gonna make a really good rap album. It's like, can I have fun in the process, learn some things, and then share it with people and not fear the judgment, you know? Um but no, I haven't been making too much music. I've you know, I made some goals last year and I succeeded on every goal except for one. Um, so I moved it to this year's goals. And yeah, it's like mini goals, you know, like I wanted to get my license to carry. I never fired a firearm before. So a friend who I reconnected with took me shooting and showed me how to handle a gun. And um I don't own a gun, but I just wanted to learn it um and feel what it was like and you know, know how to handle a firearm. Other like mini goals was like to start a podcast and to do one episode a month minimum. You know, I started I joined a kettlebell group on uh school.com. You should join school.com. You could create um, yeah, school.com, S-K-O-O-L. You can create a profile, you could take footage from this podcast and put it up on there as like an introductory of what you want to work with people, and then you just basically build out a curriculum, you know, like you just do one little piece at a time. Here's a PDF about um my thoughts on this, and then you could put a little video about it, and you could, you know, people can pay you what they think, or you can do like simple, like $9.99 a month, and and I put out a new course every two weeks, um, and you can get people to come into your group, and that's how I got started with the kettlebells. Um, I found the guy on TikTok and he was like doing really cool stuff and talking uh about down-to-earth like men stuff, you know, like not going into the weight room and pumping iron and taking a bunch of pre-workout, but it was really just about like being more flexible and having more energy. So uh he he got me in. And there was only like 40 people in the group, and now there's like 400. I'm not in the group anymore, but it's just cool to see him grow into like this big thing. Um, yeah, and it was like a community, it helped me on my health journey as far as like getting back to feeling younger and flexible and stronger. And uh I had back problem I had lower back sciatica pain all the time, four times a year. And once I started the kettlebells and really getting into a deep squat and like strengthening my uh hamstrings and my hip flexors, you know, no back pain.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:41

Wow, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:42

Just a simple like adding in some nice like uh movement into my life, and yeah, it was just I wasn't strong enough. That's why I was getting the back pain.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:52

Yep. Now us men, man, we we really uh neglect the glutes and the hamstrings. You know, I I I just went through the same thing, man. I I I definitely ignored my glutes, and my buddy came over last night, he was showing me a couple of butt workouts, and I woke up this morning so sore, but I felt so good and so sturdy in my stance, it felt really good.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:11

Oh, I'm gonna clip that little snippet right there. That's that's gonna be the short.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:22

Yeah, yeah, it's really it's uh it's it's so simple, you know. Life makes it oh us humans make it so complicated, but life is so simple. You just move, you can breathe, eat some fruit, and have some fun with some friends. That's it. It's really that simple. Life could be so simple, but we there's a lot of people really complicated, I feel like.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:44

Well it sucks that you're so far away, but it's cool that you're in some because I've been to Maui, so I know the the vibe and the feeling there.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:56

Yeah, yeah, it's pretty, it's pretty great, man. And I just yeah, like I said, it's a it's a great place to I've just landed at the spot and who knows what God has next for me. You know, wherever spirit wants me to go next, I'm just I'm open. But Matt I'll sure be watching. Yeah, what's that? I will be watching. Right on, man. Cool. Well, I'd love to do that. I'd love to stay in touch, bro. Seriously, I'm looking for definitely looking for more brothers in my life, and I really appreciate you inviting me on this podcast. And um, yeah, I really appreciate you, bro. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:26

Yeah, I'll send you some information on school, and yeah, I'm glad to help. Um, if you ever have questions about marketing or something. I have so many. Not that I have all the answers, but uh definitely love story, so I think story is the way to go. I think you're doing a great job. Thanks, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:42

Appreciate you, bro. Yeah, please, if you end up cutting this up a little bit and um, you know, having like different clips on, you know, different parts that really stood out to you or could really stand out to the brothers and what I'm trying to share and different parts that me and you shared that were really, you know, intimate and beautiful. If you've I please send me all the content, bro. I really want to I will.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:01

I can send you all the raw footage, but I also, yeah, I'm gonna make a bunch of shorts. Um I use a software called Opus Clip. Um and it kind of it chop it'll take your video and it'll chop it into like 30 short clips, and then you just go in and you tweak it a little bit. Um Really? It yeah, it it helps the workflow because I can just upload an hour-long video and it'll create all your shorts. Some of them are good, some of them aren't. Some of them you have to go in and tweak a little bit. Sometimes they don't pull information that was really great, so you go back, you know, but like I said, I only have so much time. So this is more just like a prolific over perfect practice. You know, I'm I we record an episode, I use the software to help chop things up, and I put a couple of things out there, and yeah, I'll tag you in it, and I hope people start to follow you, and I hope they follow me too. Shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:51

Yeah, dude, let's grow.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:53

Subscribe, subscribe to Rich Marks the Spot.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:56

Subscribe to Rich Marks the Spot. Let's grow. Yes, uh. What's that app called? How do you spell it? S K O O L No School.com. The Orpus or whatever. What is it? The the Oh Opus clip.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:12

O-P-U-S clip. It's like uh $120 a year or something.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:16

That's great. That's a really good one. I needed something like that because that's what I've been doing is just recording long content and I needed to shorten it up because there's so many good parts, but I don't, I don't, it's I I hate doing the editing part.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:27

So yeah, that's it for eight hours and edit shorts. That's why the software is nice. That's good time to do that. And it's for good for the laptop, yeah. Yeah, and you're what you can do is you can pick a style of uh captions that go on the screen. You could pick where you want to put the captions. You could even upload a little logo if you want, but the captions, yeah, you can pick your own font, your own color, and the and the way they present. So you pick a font and a caption style that works for you, and it'll it'll do it all for you.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:57

That's awesome, bro. I'm totally getting that. Right on. That's a gold nugget right there for me. Thank you so much. Awesome, man. Well, I really sponsor me. What's that? I said Opus Clips, sponsor me. So I want to sponsor you, bro. Rich it, I got it. No, all right, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:17

Have a good have a good day.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:20

Thank you, bro. And bless you and your family. So much love. Thank you. Yes, uh aloha. Aloha.