SPEAKER_05 0:03

Yo.

SPEAKER_04 0:04

LOA. Yo. You still haven't told me what that means.

SPEAKER_02 0:11

Nah, man. You gotta, it's it's up to you. You know, it's up to you what it means. You know what what resonates with you. Maybe, maybe, ooh, deja vu.

SPEAKER_04 0:22

Maybe, um, maybe that information will be disclosed, but I hope so, because wasn't I putting it into AI at one point? And oh no, I was just sending you what I thought it was.

SPEAKER_02 0:36

Yeah, you were just guessing as to as to what it was, but you never you never guessed exactly what I intended it to be. But all the ones that you guess are kind of what I expected people to to guess. Those are the ones I kind of expected people to shoot out. So it was, it's I was like, okay, it's it's the right direction, it's the right direction. And I like it, you know, it has for stage name, it has two um two vowels, and that just that just hits a little bit harder, you know? The O and the A. You can just do so much with it. But it's so it's still Av. It's still Av. I'm still on the street, so Avenue, Avenue works, but LOA, LOA is the new, is the new evolution.

SPEAKER_04 1:22

Yeah, but do you live on a street, a road, uh, or avenue down in Florida?

SPEAKER_02 1:29

I live, let me see.

SPEAKER_03 1:33

I live on Avenue actually, ironically. Ironically, I live on Ave. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:42

Yeah, so I was trying to think the last time we actually saw each other in per person was in New York. Right? When you worked in when you lived in New York?

SPEAKER_02 1:54

Yeah, you broke up a little. I missed it.

SPEAKER_04 1:57

Am I am I coming in?

SPEAKER_02 1:59

Now you're coming in.

SPEAKER_04 2:01

I was saying the last time we actually met in per linked up in person was when you were living in New York.

SPEAKER_02 2:07

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's been a minute.

SPEAKER_04 2:11

And then I was thinking too, like, uh, when did we stop working together? Man, it's I must have left the restaurant or did you leave first?

SPEAKER_02 2:22

I don't I think you left first. I think you left for Fish, the fish. Yep.

SPEAKER_04 2:29

I think you left for Oh yeah, and Elliot and Chuck came.

SPEAKER_02 2:33

Came, they came and followed you, and I was still at I still I was still at Via. Um they all kind of came back, or at least I know Elliot came back. Um but then by Oh, they came back to Via? I think so. I think so. I might or maybe not. Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong timeline, but it doesn't matter because shortly after that I was out. 2016, we all kind of dis we all kind of left each other. That was the end of something beautiful. Yeah, why did you choose New York? Honestly, I just wanted to party. I just wanted a party. I also really love my art, and I knew the art scene there was pretty crazy. So it just made sense, you know. Any every time I I drove past New York City, I was always just like, you know, enamored by it. Always like loved the the skyscrapers and how busy it was. Um, so when I did just open my mind to moving, New York City just made sense, you know.

SPEAKER_04 3:46

Did you move there with another person or did you go solo?

SPEAKER_02 3:50

I I went I went solo. I went solo. I was there for the first like six months without anybody, and then my ex-girlfriend, we her and I got back together, and then she moved down there. She moved down there after, which is crazy to even talk about it. She followed you. She did. She did. I mean, she was like, yo, I'll come down there for you. And she hated it. She hated New York City. I don't know if she's still there or where she's at, what she got going on, but shout out to her for coming out there and you know, helping me out the way that she did.

SPEAKER_04 4:29

It is a wild place to like live.

SPEAKER_02 4:32

It's such a wild, wild place to live. It takes so much adjusting. Um, you know, you know how it is anybody from the Northeast. New York City just takes it to a whole other level. You know, you you can't take you can't take shit personal um living in New York City. You really can't. But I learned so much. I wouldn't change it for the world. I honestly want to go back. I want to go back.

SPEAKER_04 4:59

It's like I wouldn't be able to sleep, I don't think.

SPEAKER_02 5:02

Dude, I did too much going on. I didn't sleep. I was out. I was out. I was partying every other night. Go to work, get out of work, go party again. It was a time was hard. A time was had.

SPEAKER_04 5:23

Well, thanks for linking up, dude. It's really cool to see your face.

SPEAKER_02 5:27

It's been a while. I know, it's been a minute. It's been a long time.

SPEAKER_04 5:33

I was just getting flooded with memories all day, like thinking back to just hanging out in my apartment.

SPEAKER_02 5:40

I was thinking about your apartment too. I was thinking about your apartment too. It's funny because like we were talking earlier, how like when I go out with people who are like, you know, two, three, four, five, six years younger than me, I think back to all the time. All the times that we went out, and I would just be, you know, be my young reckless self, and you'd be in the corner, just like always just nursing your drink, just like like no judgment, just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Go ahead, Al. Go ahead. Do your thing. I'm over here. I'm over here. And I would just be like, and now I'm now smart. The rules have changed. Now I'm sitting back with the younger guys, and I'm like, damn, damn. That was that was me right there.

SPEAKER_04 6:31

You think twice about going to the after after party. You're like, I think I'm gonna, I'm gonna not go to this one. I'm gonna go home. I gotta get up and drink coffee.

SPEAKER_02 6:41

I don't even think twice about it. It's just not happening now. It's just not happening now. I don't even, I don't even go out to the to the regular party, let alone considering the after party. You know?

SPEAKER_04 6:54

We went to a 40th birthday party at Electric Haze, and we were there for like an hour, and then we were like, let's go get some food and go home.

SPEAKER_02 7:05

Damn, Electric Hayes. That just brought me back. That's funny.

SPEAKER_04 7:10

And the a couple, well, I mean, it was their party, so they were kind of like going back to being 20. They're outside ripping butts, they're like drinking. They're also performers, so they were all taking turns on instruments and singing songs. So it was a really cool party. But we were just so exhausted. We had just had our third baby.

SPEAKER_03 7:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 7:30

We we wanted to show up, we said what's up, and then we bounced. We were home by like 10 30.

SPEAKER_02 7:35

And and and that's what you gotta do. I think it's the it's the thought that counts when it comes to um partying at our point in life, you know? Because at the end of the day, like, dude, I used to be like, oh, age, age, age, dude. It's all about lifestyle. Like, you could be 25, you could be 35. If you're single and you have no kids, your lifestyle is completely different from someone who's 25 or 30 with kids. Bro, you have three. You have three. You just had your third. Jesus.

SPEAKER_04 8:14

Yeah, but once you have the second, the third one is just part of the she move, she moved in like nothing, but she's spoiled, dude, because we got lazy.

SPEAKER_03 8:23

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. For sure.

SPEAKER_04 8:25

She's crying. We're like, oh, you just come here. Yeah, you come into bed for an hour. It's all set.

SPEAKER_03 8:30

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 8:31

And now she's like, thinks she's running the house.

SPEAKER_02 8:34

I believe it. Hey, you know, rightfully so. Rightfully so. The last one to come. Actually, who knows? You guys might have another one, huh?

SPEAKER_04 8:43

Uh, I don't know. No. If I do, there's no more podcasts. There's uh you ain't gonna see me for like 18 years.

SPEAKER_02 8:55

For sure, dude. For sure.

SPEAKER_04 8:57

I'll be like, I'll walk into somewhere with a cane and a big gray beard, and you'll be like, yo, he looks like from Lord of the Rings.

SPEAKER_02 9:05

Yeah, no, respectfully, respectfully, because I'm you're young.

SPEAKER_04 9:10

You can you probably could pop four or five kids out. Nah. Because you're young.

SPEAKER_02 9:14

You got the youth. Nah, dude. Honestly, for me, for me, being all the way down here in Florida, I have like some family, but not like in Massachusetts. Um maybe if I was around like my like immediate family, like the whole, the whole gang, maybe I would entertain it. But all the way in Florida with just a sprinkle of family and friends, not happening. Not happening.

SPEAKER_04 9:43

Even with all the family, though, they've got lives too.

SPEAKER_02 9:47

Bro, I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 9:48

So they can't help as much as you you think, too.

SPEAKER_02 9:50

You know, I got I got sisters, cousins back home. They all got kids. I'd be like, yo, hold me down for an hour, hold me down for two. Oh, if they've got kids, forget that.

SPEAKER_04 10:03

That's the easy. You could just drop kids off with kids.

SPEAKER_02 10:05

Oh, exactly, exactly. And like vice versa. Like, if I'm home, like I would expect them to do the same. So I would definitely take advantage if that option presented itself.

SPEAKER_04 10:17

We're in a weird situation.

SPEAKER_02 10:20

Well, you mean you got your mom, you got your pops, you got your sister.

SPEAKER_04 10:26

Well, as far as friends go, though, like some of my friends have older kids. And then it's you know, it's her friends who are having kids around the same time. All my friends either are MIA or they got old kids, like 15, 16-year-old kids.

SPEAKER_03 10:43

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 10:45

Especially a lot of the girls.

SPEAKER_02 10:49

Yeah, no, that that is that is a huge age gap. It is best to have like that, like three to five. Even that can be a little can be a big gap depending on the age.

SPEAKER_04 11:03

And then I was thinking about uh all the times we used to order from Ming House.

SPEAKER_02 11:08

Dude, I was actually literally like 20 minutes before we got on the phone on the on this call, I'm like, damn, what was that Chinese joint that he used to we used to order from? I wonder if he even remembers. But we would be Why was it so fresh? I don't know. It was delicious, bro. Like your apartments were always a vibe. Like when I tell you, after like hanging out with you for as long as I did, like my whole mentality switched. You know, when I went back, when I went and had my own my own apartment, my own spot in um New York, I was looking for record players. I was I was considering curtains and blinds. I was considering like the the the carpet, shit that was from from me at that point, I was always just like, whatever, black, black, this is black, that's black, maybe some red, you know? But after cooling it with you, you playing the records, bottle of Woodford Reserve, flowing on the mic, ordering that Chinese, I was like, all right, all right, this there's levels to this shit. There's levels to this shit. Rich gets it. I need to tap in.

SPEAKER_04 12:24

Because we, their Chinese food restaurant was across the street, but we couldn't order from there because it wasn't good. For some reason, the Ming house, every time we ordered, it was like super fresh. And I was like, this is the best Chinese food everywhere.

SPEAKER_02 12:38

Delicious. It would always, we'd always be kick, we'd always be kicking it for a little bit. We'd make some music for like two hours, and then you'd be like, yo, you trying to get Ming House? I'm like, let's do it. You read my fucking mind.

SPEAKER_04 12:55

Nothing better than working a shift, going to be creative after, drink some Woodfords or some wine.

SPEAKER_02 13:03

And then order some late night Chinese. You know what's crazy? A lot of those, after a lot of those like sessions, or those when we would kick it, I'd be like, yo, I think I'm gonna hit hit the bars real quick. You trying to go? Nine times out of the 10. Nine times out of ten, he'd be like, no, Alan, I'm not trying to go. I was, yeah, that was your pregame. I'm not trying to go. Have fun, nobody.

SPEAKER_04 13:31

I'd be looking at the clock. 11:45, 1215. I'm like, hell no, I ain't going to go by.

SPEAKER_02 13:39

Yeah. Oh, so funny. So funny. Nah, but those are some really dope sessions. Uh, Pulsade Casual, all the shoots. Like, you really helped me like flood my brain with like not just like creating and expressing, but being a little bit more intentional and like curating a whole like visual and and telling a story, you know?

SPEAKER_04 14:07

So because that what was taught to me, you're welcome, dude. Um, it was like you're a choreographer, right? And you have to not only project your message to the front row, but even the back row. So everything is a performance. If you're a waiter, you're on you're a performer. If you're writing poetry, like you're performing, you know.

SPEAKER_00 14:28

Right, right.

SPEAKER_04 14:29

And we used to do like stupid vocal exercises like blue baby buggy bumpers, blue baby buggy bumpers, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Red leather, yellow leather, red leather, yellow leather. And then you would just come on and you would just crush a verse or a chorus because you got this like dexterity.

SPEAKER_03 14:44

So fun. So fun.

SPEAKER_04 14:46

Yeah, that was super, that was awesome. And imagine if we knew what we were doing, because now that I think back, everything was like peaking at zero, like the mic was always too hot, like some of the chords were busted up, so it'd be like, why is it all fucked up?

SPEAKER_03 15:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 15:04

But it just added to the vibe.

SPEAKER_03 15:06

For sure, for sure. For sure. Good times, good times.

SPEAKER_02 15:13

Are you still a vegan? For the most part, you know, like I I I kind of like ditched the term vegan a long time ago, just because like A, veganism, like has like this like negative connotation. You hear vegan and people are like, oh blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Um, and like it's a lifestyle that a healthy lifestyle. That's you know, it's a lifestyle that was there before vegan, you know. So, you know, I always tell people like I'm plant-based. Because like if I have to, if there's nothing around, I'm absolutely starving, and I'm at a party, and there's these pastries and they have some egg in it, I'll fuck that shit up. You know, I'll eat it without even like, without even batting an eye. And actually, as of late, I've actually been eating eggs. Like, I I couldn't help it. Like the past like like year and a half, like, you know, I work in the restaurant industry, and every time a ribeye would come out, I'd be like, damn, I want a bite of that. And I'm and I just didn't understand why. So finally, I I like took a couple, like I went to a party one time with uh my my daughter made this friend at school, and they have uh, there was a little boy there, and um, his mom and dad ended up being like really, really cool. And our kids took a liking to each other, so um they would always be talking about each other to like he would talk about her to his parents, and she would talk about him to us. So it took, we we started hanging out with the mom and dad, and the dad was super cool, mom was super cool. We'd have lot lots of conversations. We would talk about, like, you know, lifestyle, you know, veganism, people who only eat meat, and they would tell me how they tried it, and you know, they they they just couldn't stop craving meat. They couldn't stop craving meat. And they would always be on the grill, like, yo, Al, just eat this New York strip. Just try it, just try it. And after one day, couple splits, glass of wine, I was like, man, fuck it. Let me have this. Let me try this New York strip. Oddly enough, I didn't like it at all. Like, I was like, it, I enjoyed like how how satiated, like how full I was after. Um, but I didn't enjoy it. I was like, oh yeah, no, I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm good. I'm good. I'm good without this. Um, and then I I kind of left it alone for a long time. Um, and then started eating eggs. And now I don't crave meat at all. Um, every now and then I work at this high-end steakhouse. Every now and then, when one of the$200 steaks come out, I take a bite of that shit. I'm not gonna lie. You know, A5 Japanese Wagyu, why not?

SPEAKER_04 18:05

Yeah, it's like uh taking a sip of fine wine. You gotta touch it to your palate.

SPEAKER_02 18:11

Exactly, exactly. And like, you know, it's like it's like really and I I like their way of of um of farming and and raising cattle over there in Japan. You know, they they they they take it very serious. Um and there's some amazing, there's some amazing uh prefixtures out there, amazing farms out there. So I said, you know what? I sell this stuff. Let me let me let me start trying it every now and then. So I tap in, I top in and have a little bit of steak, but nothing crazy.

SPEAKER_04 18:46

I think we have it maybe every week and a half or so. Yeah. And it's not always like a a strip steak that's like on a cast iron or a grill. Sometimes we'll like roast a pot roast or like because I like to make these like Asian soups for my lunch. But I'll like roast off of meat and then I'll do like a bunch of veggies, some rice noodles, uh, homemade broth, and then some of the meat on top. And then I'd put a bunch of like Guchu Gong Korean spicy sauce with it. So that's like keeps me full, but I'm also not like eating like a big sub or something, which just like weighs me down.

SPEAKER_02 19:23

Yeah, for sure. Balance, dude, balance. It's it's all about balance.

SPEAKER_04 19:29

Dude, we owe I'm an overeater though, classic overeater. Because I eat healthy, but I'll eat like three plates and want like cookies, not cookies, I want like peanut butter after peanut butter and crackers with a glass of milk.

SPEAKER_02 19:41

Same. But I've been on my like dark chocolate tip. Like I'll have, like I had like three bowls of of what we had earlier, and then I'll have some type of dark chocolate after. Like really high-end, just really delicious ass chocolate. And then I'm good for the day. You know, I might eat another meal, like I might eat something else in a minute. Have like have a little protein shake. I don't really do protein shakes that often, but real light, you know, real light.

SPEAKER_04 20:12

I could never give up eggs though.

SPEAKER_02 20:15

It was easy for me to give up eggs. It was hard for me to give up chicken. It was hard for me to give up chicken. Out of all the things I gave up, that was the last thing. That's how I kind of went plant-based. I cut off pork, then I cut off steak, and then I finally cut off chicken. But that shit was hard for me. No pun intended. I know, I know people are gonna run with that. Like, of course your black ass wanted a chicken, but man, I love it.

SPEAKER_04 20:40

Who doesn't want a chicken?

SPEAKER_02 20:42

Bro, a nice chicken. And I moved to New York City at the right when I decided to go plant-based, and that's when I started getting exposed to fucking like Korean barbecue and seeing that Korean barbecue fried chicken. Oh man, that's when I that's when I really realized, yo, my mind over matter, my discipline.

unknown 21:03

Fuck.

SPEAKER_04 21:04

You're inspiring me to because we were doing so good for a long time doing like pest like fish dishes and a lot of vegetable dishes, because we we do like veggie dishes.

SPEAKER_01 21:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:18

Um, and then somehow we fell away, fell away from that. Fried foods is what my killer is like oh fish and chips, fried chicken, french fries, onion rings.

SPEAKER_02 21:28

All day.

SPEAKER_04 21:29

But that don't it doesn't sit good day.

SPEAKER_02 21:33

It doesn't, it doesn't. And especially for me, like try to do a workout? Well, after eating some french fries or fried chicken, you can't work out for like a day. Heart burning, belly uh gargling and and getting all queasy. It's just not worth it. It's just not worth it now. You know.

SPEAKER_04 21:54

So I know you've uh got into fit, I mean, you've always been into fitness. And eating right and exercising. And now you're teaching Pilates?

SPEAKER_02 22:08

Yeah, so Yoga? I'm teaching all the above. You know, I do, I teach, I teach, I got into yoga. I was already doing yoga way before Pilates. I actually taught my time.

SPEAKER_04 22:22

We did yoga a couple, we did yoga a couple times.

SPEAKER_02 22:24

Yeah, yeah. For sure. I was, I was I tapped into yoga like that when I was still in Massachusetts. But it was never like, it wasn't, like I didn't have an understanding of it. I had no idea what the hell was going on. I was just like, okay, I'm exercising. I'm getting a little stretching. Um, and then I tore my ACL and my meniscus. Um yeah, in New York City, in a bar fight. In a fight at a club, bro. Tore my shit. And it was just like a wake-up call, like, A, you gotta you gotta chill the fuck out. And B, you gotta figure out what you're gonna do with your leg. Cause like I didn't want to get surgery, and like no most surgeon would have would have been like, dude, you're not an athlete. Like, just try to like do some PT, you know?

SPEAKER_04 23:09

So you never had it removed or or I never I never had it fixed.

SPEAKER_02 23:13

I met, I was at a restaurant at the time, and my co-workers with the two girls that were there. And even before I tore my ACI, my meniscus, it'd be like, yo, Al, I just feel like you'd be like, like, really, like you, you're you're a yogi. You're a yogi. Like you should come to the studio, you should come to the studio, you should come to and do this practice that we do, this particular practice. It's very approachable, beginner-friendly. And I was just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. But then when I tore my ACI meniscus, and they were like, yo, like this is this particular practice we're talking about will be perfect for it. And I still was like, yeah, I was desperate though. So I kind of started hearing them out. And then one day, uh, when the one of my coworkers was just like, yo, tomorrow I'm coming, like after club, after work, or either she told me to meet her, like, you're you're coming with me. And I was just like, I bro, I went with her, did this class. I'll never forget it. Like that first class, I walked out that room. First of all, I couldn't straighten my leg after tearing my ACL, my menissis, because like you kind of just walk with this bent knee because it hurts to lengthen. So I would walk with my knees slightly bent after the class, leg completely straight, zero pain, like no pain at all. And I'm in this like hot ass studio. I'm like changing. I'm like, yo, what the fuck did I just do? I walk outside, the sun's brighter, the air tastes better, my water is more fresh. I'm like, damn, what the hell did I just do?

SPEAKER_04 24:56

I thought you were about to get into some like story like Zach got into with I met these two priestesses and they wanted to introduce me to yoga.

SPEAKER_02 25:05

Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Uh listen, I respect the spiritual aspect of it. Um, I no shade uh no shade to Zach. No shade to Zach. Zach's a homie. He used to crack me up, but the second you said Zach, I was like, nah.

SPEAKER_04 25:23

Well, his stories, his story started like that too. Ended differently. Yeah, I believe it.

SPEAKER_05 25:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:34

To this day, it's still he's holding it in.

SPEAKER_02 25:36

Oh, I believe it. I believe it.

SPEAKER_04 25:38

I'm just playing.

SPEAKER_02 25:38

I believe it. I heard about his thing. But um, yeah, you know, canceled. Yeah, that's the last thing we want. It's funny that you bring that up. Like, I've always entertained the idea of hopping on a podcast, but I was just like, yo, I'm way too much of like uh a skits. I'm gonna be all over the place. I'm gonna say something and get my ass canceled. I'll just I'll uh bleep it out, or I just like it. Yeah, bleep it out, edit, edit it, edit it out if I if I say anything out of pocket.

SPEAKER_04 26:08

Um what's beautiful about this is no editing.

SPEAKER_02 26:12

Oh, so you're just gonna put it on like this.

SPEAKER_04 26:15

I just turn, I just turn it on, press record, and that whatever happens, happens. That's why I was like usually super tired, so I was like, all right, don't just look at the guest like blank stare for two hours. I was doing that at the beginning. I'm still doing that. I don't care. It's it's for vocals anyways. The visual is just uh I just do it because it's the software.

SPEAKER_02 26:37

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, for sure. We're some handsome dudes though. We gotta, we gotta, we gotta showcase that for sure.

SPEAKER_04 26:42

Oh man, we used to do well. We used to do well at the at the places. Only well, you know the moment when when the mustache came out.

SPEAKER_02 26:51

That's the that's when the with the twirl of the mustache. I'm not gonna lie, like you, our two men, we would, we were, we it was an interesting, it was the interesting combination. We always did well. I always like we I felt like we attracted the like the right groups of people, you know, not even just girls, but like cool dudes, cool girls, you know.

SPEAKER_04 27:14

Yeah, we weren't trying, there's no drama or push those people to the side, and if you want to come have fun, you come to come hang out with everybody.

SPEAKER_03 27:23

Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_04 27:25

Now with the yoga, did you find your like hips loosening up and your like core getting stronger? Like, how'd your flexibility play into doing that?

SPEAKER_02 27:35

It took a long time. If anything, I felt like more stable. Because the practice that I I started doing um is is was was brought over to the West by uh Bikram, very controversial um dude, but he brought he brought yoga to the West in a way that it hadn't been presented here before. You know, he brought the heat, he brought this particular practice, you know, you're doing yoga, but it's the same 26 postures and you do them two times. So it's really good for people who, you know, aren't as like mobile and loose, who can't get into like a three-legged dog or like, you know, these crazy ass postures. And it also allows you to like really track your progress because it's easier to do that. Um, but you know, a lot of like one-legged moves, balancing moves. Um aesthetic. I just found that like I felt more balanced, you know, more stable. I could feel underneath my feet more. They started to open up throughout the years, but I would say like way later on. Like I was doing this shit in New York for like three years, and my I was making progress. Like a lot of movements were opening, but a lot of them were still super tight. It wasn't until I moved to Florida and did like a teacher training to get certified, where I was forced to do it two times a day for like however long. I had to wake up at like five, be at the studio at six, take a class at six thirty, take another class at nine, and then we do workshop all day. And it wasn't until I did all those workshops and doing the moves over and over and over and over again that I like really started to loosen up, hips started to open up, um, started noticing shifts in the hips, all that shit. Um, and honestly, it wasn't until I did that teacher training that my mind started opening to like just being like a full-on like movement instructor. Because I I've already been personal training, weightlifting people uh helping people weightlift and and and shit like that, but had never um tapped into like, you know, specific modalities like yoga or Pilates or this. So after I did that, I'm like, man, I could, I could do this. I could do this. And I kept you getting certified and trying different things. And, you know, now I have a nice lengthy list of things that I've been certified in, things that I could teach if I wanted to. Um, it's cool. It's cool, it's cool. And like, you know, and the more I teach, the more I learn, the more I practice, the more I learn. So I'm just excited to see what the future brings. Uh, you know, a lot of people, especially men, kind of look down on it and make fun of me. You know, close friends, they they it's lighthearted and whatnot. But I know it it stems from like some like real thinking. And it sucks because like men would men would benefit from this shit so much. You know, men would benefit from it so much, just as much as girls, maybe if not more, depending on whatever the guy men are dealing with. Um so I I'm I'm excited to be that, you know, that bridge, that voice that like gets gets people into it. Like, yo, could be could be in weird and come come come come get a little Pilates session in with me. Come look, I'm gonna look at that.

SPEAKER_04 31:25

How did you transition Pilates looks crazy? How did you transition into Pilates? Were you pursuing more athletes, like were you pursuing personal things and found Pilates and was like, this is the workout for me?

SPEAKER_02 31:39

Well, no, I had done this thing, this uh studio called Solid Core, and you're on this like big ass machine. It's called the Mega Reformer, and it's based off of the reformer, which was invented by uh Joseph Pilates. So what you see on my Instagram, like, you know, a lot of people like will repost my class, like, oh, that was a great class, Alan. Um that's actually not Pilates, it's it's based off of Le Gris, it's modernized, it's modernized Pilates. Um so it that was easy for me to get into because I had already done Solid Core. Um, and because I got my yoga certification, um my girl was like, yo, I want to get certified too. I'm like, oh, where? Like, yeah, I'm like, I do it. And she was like, oh, I'm gonna get certified in Pilates. And at the time, I was like, I don't know what the fuck that is, but sign me up. Like, you're gonna get certified in something. That's awesome. Especially if you're, you know, using the inspiration that you got from me to do it. So she was the one that introduced like the Pilates to me in like that to that extent. Because I had to take a couple classes um at Solid Core. I had never taken like Matt Pilates or anything like that. Um, but yeah, shout out to her. She's the one that inspired me to or encouraged me to do it. Uh, we met this, she got approached by or she met this woman at the studio that was like, you should, you should teach with at my suyo, come try a class out on the house. And um she took a class and was like, yo, I love it. And it looks it looks amazing. It's fun. It's fun. It's fun, you know. You know, a lot of there's a lot of um, there's a lot of debate and discussion uh within the within the Pilates community of what's actually Pilates and what is it. Um I try not to get too deep into it because at the end of the day, most people who are working out don't care. Um But I don't know. I think I I think it's important to entertain it, but I also don't want to get lost in it. As long as people are moving and and you know, getting into lunges or working their core or working their hamstrings in ways that they're not used to doing because they're like weightlifting or whatever, get in there. That's that's great, you know.

SPEAKER_04 34:27

Is there like a stretching element to it also? Like, because it seems like there's tension. And if you're very like weak or inflexible, maybe that tension will progress you faster.

SPEAKER_02 34:40

Absolutely, absolutely. I I I wouldn't it honestly depends on how serious you take it and how often you go, that you know, the the the level of how fast you'll improve naturally, just like anything else. But um, yeah, there's definitely a strengthening component, there's a flexibility component, there's a stability component, all things that are just perfect for the human body, you know.

SPEAKER_04 35:08

Are you still writing uh poetry, rapping? I'm rapping.

SPEAKER_02 35:13

I rap. You know, it's funny. My daughter, um I wouldn't I would make freestyles up in front of her, and she'd be like, What song is that? And I'd be like, Oh, Daddy just made it up. And she's like, What do you mean you made it up? And I'd be like, Oh, I just freestyle. So now, like, we just be freestyling at the crib. You know, she freestyles, I freestyles, her mom freestyles. We just all be kicking these flows, bro. We just be getting into it.

SPEAKER_04 35:43

I try to get Miles and Via to make songs up too. They kind of look at me like, how do I make a song up? And I go, you just talk about something you like.

SPEAKER_00 35:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 35:53

And they're like thinking about it really hard. I was like, don't think about it. It's just a gut thing. Just say whatever you feel.

SPEAKER_02 36:00

Just stay just say what comes to mind.

SPEAKER_04 36:03

We gotta do more music in this house. Like, we I got the keyboards down here. I do once in a while set up the production and let them play on the keys and the the pads. Yeah, but dude, I'm also forget how to do it. So sometimes I'll like I need to set it up the day before because they get impatient. And I'm over here trying to like, why isn't why isn't the mic coming on? You know, the how I used to like be like, Alan, I swear I knew how to do this before. I don't know why it's not working.

SPEAKER_02 36:30

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, you you definitely gotta come correct for the little ones.

SPEAKER_04 36:35

Cause they'll learn I like want them to learn how to make beats. Like I would rather them play on that instead of like Xbox or something.

SPEAKER_02 36:45

Oh yeah. I think you know, music is such a is such an amazing outlet. Like being able to tap into that at a young age. Powerful. Powerful.

SPEAKER_04 36:56

So what when are you writing like when are you making songs? Are you is it like when you're prepping before a class and you got a little time before? Are you still you still work at the restaurant so you got the receipt scrolls? I'm sure you get time to get a screen. I got receipt scrolls sometimes.

SPEAKER_02 37:11

Sometimes when it's slow enough, I'll I'll pull out the pen and I'll write something. But I'm finding that it's a lot harder for me to write. You know? Like whenever I do come up with like a 16 or an eight or eight bar verse It's usually off of like me like experiencing something and then saying it to like saying whatever I say to myself in my head, and then being like, oh shit, like that's that's an intro to a really hard verse, and then I'll just live with that, like whatever it was that inspired me, I'll live with that for like another hour or two, and then I'll come up with a 16. And at that point, people around me are like, yo, I was lost it. Like, buddy's talking to himself, and meanwhile, I'm writing a verse, I'm writing a verse in my head.

SPEAKER_04 38:04

Are you can you like memorize a lot of things so that if when you do go to record, you're gonna have just like a bunch of material to kind of assemble?

SPEAKER_02 38:14

I mean, I have I still have all my verses written down from like when we were right, when we were writing a lot. Um I think because of like my approach and my way of thinking now, I wouldn't even go into it like I used to. Like before when when we with our process, I would have everything written down, I would have the chorus, I'd have, I would have the hook, or I would just have the hook and the chorus and then and then write the verse. And then I would as I was writing the verse, I would like try to come up with more. I wouldn't even do it like that anymore. Like I would go into it with like, okay, this is what I want the song to be about. Here's a piece of the hook, here's a piece of the verse. I'm just gonna freestyle the rest, you know, on some awesome like awesome jigger shit, you know, get in there and just flow as opposed to writing.

SPEAKER_04 39:10

Um it's crazy too, probably the whole concepts are different because when you're going through younger th you know, you don't have a family or might not be happy, you know. We all would always write when we were pissed.

SPEAKER_02 39:25

Yeah, yeah. I had my my content and the shit that I would write about back in the day was always the same shit. And for me, that was like the block for me. Like I was just like, I love this freestyle or I love this this this verse, but I wish I would add something else to it that makes it more uh relatable to the to the average listener. You know, like it never made it like it I yeah, dudes our age could relate to it, but no one else could. And now I feel like I just be saying shit because of what I just saw happen across the street, or because what my daughter just said to me. You know, whereas before I would have never thought to put that in a song because A, I wouldn't know how to, and B, I wouldn't have the confidence to do it. I was just like, Man, that's kind of corny. I'm good.

SPEAKER_04 40:20

You know what other hobbies uh have you picked up uh in the past 10 years? Anything in like skateboarding, surfing, anything?

SPEAKER_02 40:31

Um I I started going I started surfboarding, I started snowboarding a lot for a little bit. Bought a snowboard, bought a booth, and I was I was boarding like crazy for a little bit. But that kind of happened like right before I left and then continued to happen for a couple of years. But then I just kind of got sick of it. Not sick of it, but I was just like, damn, I can only do this like a couple months out of the year. Um, I don't have a car because I was in New York at the time. So I kind of fell out of that. Um, but like hobbies, nothing really. Nothing really.

SPEAKER_04 41:10

Like nothing that like that's not an easel in the background there, a painting easel back there.

SPEAKER_02 41:15

Yeah, no, I was gonna I was gonna say I've been painting. I've been painting a lot more. Oh that's cool.

SPEAKER_04 41:22

Send me a painting, bro. I got Dave Renault's uh abstract paintings. I need some more paintings for other studios.

SPEAKER_02 41:27

Yeah, I got you, I got you. I'll send I'll I remember Dave's painting actually. Um I'll make sure to to to send you something. It's funny. Um one of the studios.

SPEAKER_04 41:40

Like a little one.

SPEAKER_02 41:42

One of the studios that I teach at, they do um these like cool little videos, these little workout videos of you working on on the mega reformer on the on the machine. And the owner was just like, oh, I want you to have one, I want you to do one. So I did one and it was cool, it was a vibe. And the the the videographer, the cameraman, he was like, when I did it with him, he was like, Oh, yo, what do you do outside of here? And I was just like, Oh, you know, like outside of lifting, I've outside of like fitness, like I'm really big in art, like I love expressing myself through, you know, any type of meeting, like whether it's music or whether it's uh, you know, painting or drawing. And he his eyes like lit up. He was like, You're an artist. He's like, dude, I have this idea for like this um segment that I want to do. And it's gonna be all the instructors doing, you know, the the modality, working out, but at the same time, it's gonna be a spin-off of what they do outside of here. And at the time I was like, oh yo, that sounds cool. That sounds cool, like I like it. Like, yeah, keep me in mind, I would love that. Like, I'm always down for a video, I'm always down for a shoot. Fast forward like a couple of months, he hits me up and he's like, yo, remember what I was telling you about? I'm like, yeah. He's like, I wanna do it, I wanna like uh shoot a segment with you and you like doing the workout and displaying your art. And I'm like, oh shit, like yeah, I'm down, like that sounds great. And he's like, okay, like let's do it like as soon as possible. And that's when I was like, oh shit, as soon as possible. What do you mean, like soon as possible? Like how soon? He's like, oh, I'll sing in like a month today. I'm like, oh god, a month? Little does he know, like I have like all my pieces are unfinished. I haven't I hadn't actually sat down and like created anything in like years. So all of the things that I have, you know how it is when you when you grow and you look at your stuff back in the day, you're just like, oh, that's that's kind of trash. Like I'm probably better than this now. That was how I felt about all my pieces. So after we got off the phone, bro, I drove my ass up. All like five canvases, as much painted as I could afford, brushes, and I got to work, dude. I painted so much, drew so much in like the span of a month and a couple of weeks. And we did the shoot a couple weeks ago. The paintings I presented weren't finished. Obviously, when I when he shows it in the video, and people aren't gonna really know that unless you're an artist and like you'd be like, oh, he didn't finish the shading there. Um but it was great. It pushed me, you know, it pushed me to like sit down and actually paint. You know, it's it's it's remarkable what the what the what what we could do as people once you put those borders down on you and keep you keep those margins super slid. Like I was painting 10, 12 hours a day trying to bang this shit out.

SPEAKER_04 44:54

A month, I would have said, Alan, we're shooting it tomorrow, buddy. And you'd be like, I would have been like, all right, five days.

SPEAKER_02 45:01

I'd have been like, oh no, dude, no, we can't. We can't. Um, but it ended up when you end up really cool.

SPEAKER_04 45:09

Do you sketch it out first or do you just like freestyle?

SPEAKER_02 45:13

So typically, yes. Typically, like, you know, you want to draw it out, you want to figure out like the composition, you want to figure out like what size canvas you're gonna put it on. Uh, you want to figure out the the colors, you know.

SPEAKER_04 45:29

I'm picturing it to be like action bronson, abstract.

SPEAKER_02 45:34

I have time for none of that shit.

SPEAKER_04 45:36

What do you do? Like a landscape?

SPEAKER_02 45:38

Do you do like portraits? So that's the thing. As an artist, like I don't have my style. I've kind of been just like painting characters. I've been painting characters, I will paint scenes or I will draw scenes. Um, I have like pictures of different um iconic pieces from different artists that I've always said to myself I want to recreate. I actually have one of them right here. Let me show you. An exclusive, you seen it here first. So one of my favorite artists, uh Jamisel Basquiat, he had this uh this piece of uh of a head, like a skeleton. Like set this up. And I've had it on my t-shirt for years. You probably see me in it because I I used to wear it back in the day. And I always said to myself, yo, I want to recreate that. I want to recreate that. Well, I finally did it, and I call it Way to Exhale. Let's see if I can get it. Dude, that is I love that.

SPEAKER_04 46:43

Pretty gangster, right? Dude, it's like a modern bitch's brew by Miles Davis. It's got like 70s uh vibe, but it's like a modern.

SPEAKER_02 46:53

Because that's what I was going for. Like a modernized, abstract, jazz. Um Is that you?

SPEAKER_04 47:02

Is that a self-portrait? I mean, you know.

SPEAKER_02 47:07

There's elements of you in it, but I I I see me in it, but like the more I look at it, I think about one of my homies from New York. His name's Garrett, and looks just like him. I showed it to him before. I didn't tell him that it's him, but I think it might be him, if anything, but yeah. Yeah, waiting to exhale.

SPEAKER_04 47:26

Dude, cool. I became I wasn't expecting that.

SPEAKER_01 47:30

I made it out of the day, dude.

SPEAKER_04 47:34

Yeah, man. It's I feel like you could do like a lot of different things in that style. That, you know. What what do you think is missing from it to be your style? Like, what do you want to incorporate in the future?

SPEAKER_02 47:47

I mean, with that one, I don't know. Just because, like, if you see the original, like it's it's it's close to the original, you know. Like, I can't really call it. I love I love abstract, but uh as I was painting it, I was having fun, but I wasn't challenged. Like it was that was very easy for me. Like I I could probably paint like one of those a day. Um so it's not really what I'm going for. If I if I were to like take this like serious as I plan on taking it, I want to really focus on realism. You know, I want to tackle like really gut-wrenching topics and and paint people who you wouldn't really see painted, portrayed in a very classy, elegant way. You know, I want to take some like ratchet ass uh dude with like, you know, gold teeth and like, you know, crazy hair, and I want to put him in like a suit of armor from like the Renaissance era and like, you know, like some Carvaggio type of effect where the whole black the scene behind him is black and there's this light shining down on him. You know, that's that's what in that's what I envision my style being like, but who knows? I'm playing, I'm playing with it now. You see the easel in the back. You know, I painted something, I touched something up today. And again, I'm just trying to look for what makes sense to me, what feels right, you know.

SPEAKER_04 49:19

Yeah, every time I paint, it kind of turns into a jumble because I keep adding more and more and more and more.

SPEAKER_02 49:24

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 49:25

But I never sketch something out because I never know what to sketch, because I'm just like dude, Pinterest, man.

SPEAKER_02 49:32

Pinterest is your best friend. You know? I go on Pinterest and I and I just scroll. I scroll, scroll, look for references, you know, reference pictures. I if I see something I really love, I just save it. And I'm like, okay, maybe I'll I'll somehow, somehow incorporate what the what I love about this into this next piece.

SPEAKER_04 49:55

Did you ever see my um AI girls? Like some of them had T TVs as head, some of them had cat as head. I think I did. I think I did. And they had similar color schemes to your painting.

SPEAKER_00 50:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 50:08

But I only did like a series of like three of them. When AI images first started coming out, I like did some like edition one stuff.

SPEAKER_00 50:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 50:18

Should revisit those. Those were cool.

SPEAKER_02 50:20

You should, dude. You should. You never know. You know, a lot of artists they don't tap into their like iconic run until they're in their like 35, 40, 45, 50.

SPEAKER_04 50:33

So well, you know, my you know my problem. I get too excited about the next thing, the next hobby. I don't take time to learn it. I just want to do it, and I learn it as fast as I can, and then I do the output, and then I move on to the next thing.

SPEAKER_02 50:49

Same. Same, same, same, same. I mean, that was my biggest um obstacle with these paintings. Cause like, A, I was in my head thinking I only have like a month to do it. B, um, I was just like getting so, so giddy over the that next piece. I'm like, damn, let me let me just touch that one up real quick. No, no, no, let me go back to this. No, no, let me. I had five paintings that I wanted to create. I only ended up doing three because of that, like wanting to hop on to the next thing.

SPEAKER_04 51:26

How did you land in Florida? You were in New York, and then did you go home at all, or did you just go down south?

SPEAKER_02 51:34

Like, nah, nah, I went, I came straight here. From Florida, I mean, from New York, the plan was the plan was to come down here for six months during the winter, and then after those six months, go back up to Massachusetts for six months so we could feel out which one we liked. Because in my mind, I was like, yo, I'm moving back to Mass. Like, I'm I'm I'm trying to be close to the fam. I'm trying to have my family close to my daughter as she grows up and like, you know, turns into the human being that she's gonna, she's gonna grow into. That was my idea. But we got down here. We got down here in September. September comes and goes. October comes and goes. November comes and goes. Weather is like 75 degrees. We're from New York City where there's trash everywhere. So there'd be like zero trash anywhere. Landscaping is always immaculate. I'm like, I'm like, I might, I might just fuck around and stay here. Side of going to Miami, partied in Miami a little bit. I'm like, yeah, no, I'm staying here. I'm staying here for a little bit longer, for sure.

SPEAKER_04 53:00

Seems like a great place to live. People say it's just for retiring, but.

SPEAKER_02 53:06

It has its perks. It has its perks. I mean, right now, I mean, the weather is you can't beat it. Like, we have a little cold front right now where it's cold in the morning and rainy, but then you get the sun that comes out by like 11, 12, by one, it's like 80 degrees, perfect breeze, nice heat in the sun, nice cool in the shade, and it's like that until like what like another month. It's it's perfect, it's nice. Summertime is no joke, but it's it's it's nice in the wintertime here, man. It's really nice. I'm happy I'm happy I moved.

SPEAKER_04 53:45

Yeah, and it just the sun and the air is so good for us as humans. You know, it can get tough up north when you're stuck in the house for four or five years. I mean, I get myself I'll get myself out there. I don't care, dude. I'll throw a headlamp on, I'll go chop wood outside in zero degree weather. Just because I need to get outside.

SPEAKER_03 54:06

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. For sure. For sure.

SPEAKER_04 54:09

But it's tough with the kids and there's snow on the ground and you're stuck in the house. And Florida's looking mighty nice when you're stuck up here in zero degree weather for a long time. It's nice, dude.

SPEAKER_02 54:20

It's nice. Like I I got I came home from work this morning, took my daughter outside, did some ladder work with her, played a couple games outside, burnt her out. And then I was just like, oh, do you want to play another game? She's like, uh, daddy, I kind of want to go inside. And that's when I was like, all right, I'm good. Let me take a look at it. That's how we are.

SPEAKER_04 54:45

We're we're not a family who enjoys like too much TV or too like we like a balance of, you know, doing like a physical thing, getting fresh air, going on a little mission. And then it's so much more enjoyable to come home and have some dinner together and maybe watch a little show. But if you're stuck in the house, if if it's show after show after show, or you're just like, you know, we usually can come up with creative ideas like let's build a let's take all your ramps out and build a city, or like let's put paper all on the floor and we'll build a whole racetrack, you know, we'll draw it. Yeah. There's ways to like keep them occupied, but nothing's better than getting fresh air for two, three hours.

SPEAKER_02 55:25

No, for sure. For sure. Nah, it's it it makes a big difference. It makes a big difference. Having like some type of uh getaway.

SPEAKER_04 55:38

How was it finding like an apartment? Um, and you did you move right away to Fort Lauderdale?

SPEAKER_02 55:44

No, I was in Miramar for a little bit. I was in Miramar for a year. So that's like um in Miramar is in it probably like smack down in the middle, a little bit more inland between Fort Lauderdale and Miami. Um so I was in Miramar for a little bit, kind of bouncing back and forth between Miramar and Miami. Um and then, like, you know, around the time that I moved, there was just such a huge influx of people that moved here. You know, it was just like crazy. Everything just was.

SPEAKER_04 56:21

Oh, because of COVID?

SPEAKER_02 56:23

Yeah, like a lot of people. Oh shit. It was like impossible for me to get my license down here because the DMV was so backed up. Like, like backed up in ways that I you know how the DMV is just notorious for being shit. This was next level. I mean, like, you you had to book an appointment and there were no appointments for like three, four, five months. You'd book the appointment. The day of the appointment would come up, you'd get an email saying your appointment was canceled, or you'd get, you'd show up and they'd say, Oh, you you don't have an appointment. We don't have an appointment with you, you gotta read. Oh man, it was hell. Took forever for me to get my my DMV. And the same thing went for like apartments. It was like really hard to find apartments, like anything that was like of quality would get taken up real fast. Um, and then even the shit ones would get taken up real fast. So it was just like crazy.

SPEAKER_04 57:26

So it was taken the fastest.

SPEAKER_02 57:28

That's kind of why we moved to Port Lauderdale, because like every apartment that we seen that was um that was closer to Miami, it was cool, but it just it just wasn't happening, you know. Like the HOA would be crazy. Um just a bunch of shit, you know. So for a lot of them promising.

SPEAKER_04 57:55

I'm not maybe you're different, but I'd prefer to be outside of the big city a little bit anyways. Could always travel into it.

SPEAKER_02 58:02

For sure, for sure. I think I think you know, everything really happens for a reason. Us being forced to settle down and for a lot of day was perfect. You know, it kind of stopped me from wanting to go to Miami and party. Um, I was around more like-minded people because for a lot of days a little bit more like family-esque, you know, a little slower pace. It's starting to get crazy here too, but it's still a lot more family-oriented too. So it was it was a perfect, yeah, it was a perfect move.

SPEAKER_04 58:42

Can people like reach out to you to do like training? Um, or do you only do it locally?

SPEAKER_02 58:48

Yeah, yeah. No, I I I have a client right now. Um, I train him and his wife at his house, um, but they leave in the in the summertime. So they're getting ready to leave in in May. And last summer, they left, and they were just like, man, we really want you to keep training us. Like the training we have in Maine, we don't feel like she's gonna be able to work us out the way that you do. So I told them to get a bunch of weights that they have at their house, the same setup that they have at their house, get at their house in Maine, and I would I would train them on Zoom two times a week. You know? Sweet. But for the most part, all my clients are like, you know, I go, I meet them at their facility, or they meet me at mine, and then we get like an hour and a half, hour and 15, or maybe just an hour workout. And all ages. My my I have a client that's 83, and then my youngest client, my youngest client was this 12-year-old kid that he just moved, but I would train this 12-year-old kid for a little bit. Um, so um I've I've got experience with with all ages, all demographic guys, girls.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:14

It's cool. It's really cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:18

So you're probably staying in Florida for the long haul at this point?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:22

I mean, it would be like it was easy for me to like pack up and move from Massachusetts to New York. It was easy for me to pack up and move from New York to Florida. It wouldn't be as easy for me to pack up and move from Florida anywhere else. A, because I have kids. B, because now, like, I I I can't work at a restaurant full-time. I just can't. And you know how it is when you work at a restaurant, like you could just pick up and go and go to your nearest city and and you'll probably be fine. Um, but I don't have another job that would allow me to do that. And I my clients, like, I depend on them heavily right now, you know. If like I lose, if I were to lose all my clients, I would have to go back full time to my restaurant until I recruit clients again. Not to say that it wouldn't be, it wouldn't be possible, but it would definitely be, you know, some effort, beats the type of a headache, you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:20

You should make a school.com account.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:23

I want to. I plan on like offering like some type of um, you know, program that people could buy. Thing is, as much as I love the fitness aspect of everything and whatnot, it's not, it's, it's not like it's a job. It's my work. It's not my job. You know, like painting, writing, anything artistic, anything expressive. Like, I feel like that's my job. Like I was put here to do that shit. Like, I could sit down and start creating, and I look at the clock and it says 6.15. I go back to work thinking 15 minutes went by and I look at the time and two hours went by. You know, like I don't feel like it's like like time doesn't exist with that. And I feel like that's how it should be for everyone. Like, your your work should not feel like work. Like it's your calling, it's it's what you were meant to do. And fitness, I love it. I love it. I have so much fun doing it. I'm changing lives. I got people saying that they're stepping out of cars in ways that they couldn't. People telling me that they can jump and they couldn't. And that's super refreshing and it's rewarding, but it doesn't it doesn't do the same thing that that this art does for me, you know?

SPEAKER_04 1:02:44

Well put.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:47

Yeah, man. Some artists throw it.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:50

See, I am tired because I j I just went blank. I was gonna ask you something and I forgot.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:57

Wake your ass up.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:01

Yeah. What else you want to talk about?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:06

Oh man, let's see. What else could we talk about?

SPEAKER_04 1:03:09

You wanna you wanna do a push-up contest?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:11

Boy, you know I smoke you, you don't want these problems. Yeah, I know. Actually, push-ups are like my expertise right now. Like I could do 50 push-ups in a row, like nothing. But my legs, yikes, yikes, yikes, yikes.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:30

Can you do 50 plies, ballet plies, though?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:33

Listen, if I have to, absolutely.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:36

I know you could. Oh, I know you could.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:38

Zero judgment. I don't even care. Like, I'll be in the yoga, these yoga classes doing these movements, and then sometimes like I'll be in it, like I'll be in like some weird posture, or not weird, but like what would be deemed as weird by like the outside looking in. And I'll look at myself and I'll be like, yo, this is crazy. Like my butthole's really out in the in the open right now. Like, yeah, I have my shorts on, but like I'm in this like super vulnerable position right now. And like 10 years ago, I would have looked at me and been like, what the are you doing right now?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:18

Happy baby? What? Like when we were doing all the breath work in the yoga class and looking over at each other like you. Right. Well, what is this? What are we doing?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:28

What is this? But I we've I felt great after. It makes sense. It made sense. Now, now that I have the understanding, I have, you know, my you know, I'm heads to the human anatomy and how how far the breath goes, I I take that shit seriously. That's like my the most important part of my practice now.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:52

Do you see yourself putting out like your art on on like live or putting it up on social, or is it more like you separate technology and that because it's it's more of like uh physical that's a good question.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:08

I and I have thought about it. Um I actually just signed up to get this mentor. And I've been on his Instagram a couple of times, and he's he's phenomenal. Like his work.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:22

Wait, you broke up, you got a mentor. Uh oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:25

Yeah, I see you see him reconnecting. Um yeah, no, I got this I got this mentor and um his work. Shit.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:37

Dude, that's so funny you're saying that because can you hear me?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:40

No, it's just saying reconnecting.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:43

Uh he's we lost you, bud. He's updating.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:48

You got me? I'm here.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:50

Yeah, you're back, dude. You were just telling me you got a mentor.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:54

Yeah, yeah. So I got this mentor. Man, his his work is crazy. Like he he's clicking. I've really been doing it for a long time. And I got on a webinar with him. And he was talking because he's he was offering like this like this class, this course. And I got on a web call what um a webinar with him to really feel him out to see if he actually knows what he's talking about. And just off of like hearing him talk and seeing his work, he clearly knows what he's talking about. But he doesn't have that much art on the gram. He barely has anything. He has like the same like five pieces that he kind of circulates. And I'm realizing it's because, you know, he has his art that he presents at the exhibits. And then, you know, he has his art that he presents to like commissions and whatnot. And then he has the art that he posts online to get that um trash traffic. Um and I'll This is the mentor? Yeah, this is the mentor. And that got me kind of cool thinking to myself, like, not everything that I create has to be put front, row, and center on the on the gram. And and honestly, like that has always been the most um troubling idea for me. Because I'm very private. I'm very, very private. I don't like sharing anything. So sharing my art just seems like, what the fuck? Like, no, I'm not trying to do that. So now I'm just I'm like, yeah, you don't have to share all your art. You can you can share some of it, you can share um the the the the um how it came about or how it started to come about, but I don't have to show the finishing product, you know. That's cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:44

Dude, we're on the same wavelength. 2026, we're on the same wavelength. I was like, this is the year I'm getting a leadership coach or a mentor. Yeah. I started reaching out to other people who are solo marketers because I've been a solo marketer and I feel like I don't know any other ones. So I've been getting lunch with people and just like trying to learn what they're doing. Oh yeah. The leadership coaching's interesting. I've got it dialed down. I've got like four people I did 45-minute calls with because yeah, you it's uh a little expensive at at this level for like marketing, you know. Like it's a leadership, it's a coach that helps you with all aspects of growth, but focused on your career and then what you're doing outside of work and your life too. So there's like three things they hit. I haven't picked one yet, but I'm interested to see how it's gonna change change my life or not, you know. But it's just like I feel like very successful people or very happy people, they always say my mentor or my leadership coach. Oh, wait. So I'm for it.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:55

I want it, I want someone to like you gotta keep going, dude. Keep going, keep going with that, with that idea, you know? And like I'm fingers crossed that this mentor is is is everything that I expect him to be because, like you just said, like it's a pretty penny. Like I'm about to drop a pretty penny on this, but I I I'm I'm just at the point where it's like, dude, it's like now or never. Like you can't just invest in yourself. You gotta invest in yourself. Yeah, you're you're gonna you're gonna fuck up and probably invest in the wrong person that you expect to help you out every now and then, but that doesn't stop the that doesn't change the fact that you gotta take that leap, you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:35

And they give you ideas like who are you networking with? All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna help you network with the right people because right now I don't see you networking with the right people. You know, they just give you like these little pushes like, why don't you have 10 recommendations on LinkedIn?

SPEAKER_02 1:09:50

Right, right.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:51

It's like we're gonna facilitate that. This week we're gonna work on that, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:54

Nice, nice. No, and that that that is so important because a lot of the times, like, we think these things in our careers, like it's like, oh yeah, obviously. But like to actually go and do it is a whole different topic. You know, you're gonna procrastinate, you're gonna make excuses. So when you have that person who can be like, yo, do this. And then in the back of your mind, you're like, shit, I just spent two racks on this guy. Let me listen to what he has to say and take it serious.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:33

And I thought, like, oh, I can turn the camera on, I'm gonna make YouTube videos. The second I turned the camera on, I was blank, dude.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:39

Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:40

If you go and watch some of my YouTube videos from the past year, you're gonna die laughing because some of them are so uncomfortable and cringe, but I was like, no, you're making a video today or this week, and like it's gonna be cringe because you're not comfortable. And then, you know, I started getting an idea of like, how do I put out content and get better on camera and just get and that's where the podcast came in, and I was like, all right, I could do a podcast, it's just like I'll get more comfortable on camera, it'll be content that I can put out constantly. Dude, I got I could put out probably 900 reels, you know, because I've got all these reels from all these talks, and I've only done 10 episodes. But I also don't have a goal for the podcast, so I think that's something I gotta work out. I'm losing you.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:35

I feel like brutal flies here, alright. Whoa, this is a bad one.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:43

We're still here, ladies and gentlemen. We're just having some technical difficulties. There is a tornado in Florida right now over the Fort Lauderdale uh area. Um Alan is taking shelter in his basement. He's grabbing his easel, he's grabbing his paintings and his children and they're heading underground.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:02

Bro, maybe that's why you keep breaking up because you just broke up now. Um you saw that there's a tornado awarding. No, there is one. I just made that up. Oh, I thought you saw that there is one. I was like, oh, there's because it's been raining here and nonstop for the past like three, four days, so I wasn't sure if it had grown into that.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:24

But well, we're like keep breaking up, so I guess we can um we could call it a call it a go. I think we had a good run, right? That wasn't bad. I had fun. I had fun. Yeah, it was super fun. We talked a lot about Dude, the best part Dude, the best part is now we get to go like we can do our walkie-talkie vote vote voice recordings back and forth. But what do you mean now I talk to everybody? Everybody I've been on the podcast with, like once a week, I'm always like, yo, what's going on, bro? I send them like audio messages when I'm driving. Ah, yeah, I like that. That's been cool. I like that. I like that. And dude, things change. Like my first guest, Chris Parks. I can't wait to talk to him because he's like 50 days clean and sober. His whole life has changed. Oh, hell yeah. He and I didn't even know he was going through. You know, I I knew he was like going through something, but I didn't know exactly what. And now he's gonna, you know, we're gonna link up and share. Nah. Dude, last night I talked to my my eighth grade religion teacher. What? Yeah, my eighth grade religion teacher. We talked last night. He lives in Kansas now.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:37

How the hell did you set that up?

SPEAKER_04 1:13:40

Dude, I have like not I'm not lying. I have like 60 people on a uh thing that are just like I send out like 10 messages a week, like, hey, I got these nights open. Anybody wanna link up? And usually one or two people like will be like, yeah, I'll link up. So that really there's no pressure. Like, I just send out a mass thing to like 10 people a week, and usually one or two pick up.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:05

Nice. That's cool. That's cool. No, that's this is a I like this. This is a really, this is a really solid idea. It's a really solid idea.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:16

Uh, right before we broke up, I was just saying, I think I need to pick a goal for it though. Like, what is the result I'm hoping to get after doing this for a certain amount of time?

SPEAKER_02 1:14:24

Absolutely. I think I think when you choose, when you decide who you're going to choose as your mentor, that should be one of the main um questions that you want answered, you know, because a good mentor will be able to kind of be like, hey, yes, I provide all these services, but my main point of what I do is this, you know, like funny enough.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:53

Funny enough, I do have all those goals set out in stone because I did so many calls with people and you know, they were asking the same questions. So I and I kind of already had an idea. But what I was saying was I need a goal for the podcast.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:05

Oh, for the podcast.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:07

Yeah, like what's the result? Like what happens? Uh, do I run out of people? Do I just keep going? I was thinking last night too, because I found Darrell on um Facebook. I was like, Facebook should be sponsoring this. This is how I'm literally finding these people to do the podcast.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:24

Yeah. Oh, that's how oh Darell's the religion teacher.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:29

Nice. No, what the goal should be is as you continue and you you you start to get that traffic and you start to get more crowds of people, you're gonna start attracting even like even you know higher, higher in their career type individuals. You fuck around, get get Elon Musk on here, you could turn into like a Joe Rogan, you know. That'd be dope. I would love to have a studio. Hello, though. That's your next thing. You gotta like come up with like a studio uh setup.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:12

You know what I mean? And we could if I'm interviewing a high a high profile dude, we could just talk about like growing up, like hobbies. Where where were you where do you where you come from? Where you were living, you know, what was the transition through life like to end up where you're at? And then what is what does the future hold?

SPEAKER_02 1:16:32

For sure. You know, you gotta be comfortable touching some some touchy subjects, you know? So you are you need that you need that clickbait.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:45

I want to talk to Mark Zuckerberg.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:48

We were very political, we were we we were very um neutral. We were very clean and like, you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:56

I don't think I'll ever be like that though, you know? Yeah, yeah. I just I'm maybe I'm bland in the fact that I'm just like having fun catching up with friends and yeah, I don't want to press buttons really, or but that's but you're right. Like if we could find a way to do this, but in a more interesting way, like how do we jazz it up and make moments more viral?

SPEAKER_02 1:17:21

And right, right, right, right, right. Because you can't you can stay within stay within your you know, your threshold, you know, stay within that moral compass that you like to be in, but still have a viral moment.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:36

Like, did you see Bobby Altoff and Drake doing the interview in their bed? I should have flew down to Florida and we should have done it from the bed.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:48

Yeah, see, that would be that would I don't know if I would do that, but that would be that would be a perfect example of a moment that could potentially go viral.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:59

No, should I get Cassie to do it and we'll do a podcast, husband-wife podcast from the bed?

SPEAKER_01 1:18:04

That would be Nah, you can't do the bed because it's already been done. You gotta, you gotta go a completely different direction.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:12

Well, it's kind of meta because it has been done, so it's like, oh, let's just be in the bed like Drake and you know, but it we're actually married. I bet people are already doing that. Probably. Probably. Or we can you need to text Dave Renault and be like, why have you not done the pod the podcast yet with Rich Marks?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:36

He's been Dave might fucking run and be the one to get you go viral.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:42

Dave might be the one.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:45

That is fun. So what are you doing tomorrow? You um you getting up early? You working?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:52

Yeah, I actually have this class that I teach every Friday morning at 6:30. Nice. Um I'm up at the aspect, getting ready to get there. And then I teach the class, and then I have a client after. And I hang out for a couple of hours, and then I end the end the night at the restaurant. I work at the restaurant. So Friday's a tough one.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:14

That's a long ass day, bro. Friday's a tough one for me.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:17

Friday's really tough. It's even it's even tougher because then Saturday morning, I have to wake up early again, and then I got two classes that I teach.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:26

So Yeah, the service, when you're in the service of how you know teaching a class, probably the weekend is that busy.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:34

That's the day everybody goes. It's intense. Saturday is the busiest day there. Actually, I taught two classes today, and they were both of them are super, super busy. So kind of you never know. Like, sometimes the weekday might throw you a curveball. Um, but for me, it's just like the days where I teach classes and then have clients and then have that little break and then go into a restaurant and wait. Bruh, talk about like your your social battery. Dude, I just be like, I be like, don't talk to me.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:17

That's like a yin and yang day.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:19

All the other servers and like, you know, the back of the house. I'm like, not today.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:24

Alan, will you go out with us tonight? What's wrong, Alan?

SPEAKER_02 1:20:28

What's wrong?

SPEAKER_04 1:20:29

I'm like, Why are you so grumpy?

SPEAKER_02 1:20:31

I've been talking for four hours. I don't want to talk anymore. I'm just here so I don't get by.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:39

Your boss is like, Alan, there's friggin' 22 MILFs lined out the door for your class again. What are you doing, buddy? And you're like, I nothing. I'm just teaching the class.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:50

Nah, it's it's it's actually like very respectful in regard to that. Like the ladies are very respectful. I don't really like, I've never, I mean, I have, but I don't really have any crazy stories regarding like girls hitting on me or anything like that. You know, Florida is very superficial and like girls are putting themselves out there like that out here, you know. Like they expect a dude to do that full, full, full fledged. So I'm I'm lucky in that regard. But everyone, uh the girls, guys, everyone's like super respectful. Like I've never gotten the weird vibes, you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:32

Many, I remember many nights.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:33

I'm sure girls, if anything, I'm sure girls be like, this guy is so nice. He we he wants me. He wants me. You know, anything is probably it's probably that every now and then.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:44

You get these older ladies, a couple martinis and a bottle of wine, and then all of a sudden they're making mustache comments. They're like, who is your who is your dark friend over there? And I'm like, yo, ladies, this is a restaurant, this is a family restaurant. Take it easy. Send him over here with the mustache.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:06

Yeah, if anything, I get I get like some weird vibes, weird remarks at the restaurant. The the group classes, none. But the restaurant.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:17

Oh, they're drinking, things get weird.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:21

They're there a couple of cocktails in, a couple of glasses of wine in, now they're reaching for your arm, your your your wrist, your hand.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:29

Because you're put you're doing this performance and you know you're like, oh, that's a hundred dollar tip right there. But they don't know what you're thinking.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:38

Yeah, yeah. And they're like smiling extra big, like, oh yeah, it's fine. Walk away two seconds later, like, oh my god, get me out of this.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:47

No, you're totally saying that wine correct, sir. Here's your, you know, here's your bolo.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:55

Yeah, yeah, here's your bolo.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:00

All right, man. Well, much appreciate you uh linking up and doing this.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:05

It's been real.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:05

I'm excited to see some art from you.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:08

And yeah, bro, I'm definitely, you know, that's why I'm happy I talked about it today. Because I don't typically talk about it. Like a lot of people that um have heard about the shoot, they're like, oh shit, I didn't even know you painted. And like, I'm sure a lot of people that have known for the past couple of decades are gonna be like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_04 1:23:28

Dude, get a high quality app on your phone. You probably already have it for recording. Send me a freestyle. I got beats on my I got hundreds of beats. Bro, I'm down. Just send me, like, you know, the format. You get get get me a hook or a chorus, I'll do what I need to do and get me one or two verses, three verses. Send me the raw audio, and I'll try to build some something. I haven't done it in a while. It'd be fun. I'm down.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:56

Send me, send me a beat so I can get inspired and and and see see what I should do, see what I should do to it. Because honestly, that's usually how it works for me.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:06

You might freak out. Uh, you probably already have it. Suno, it's an AI beat making app. No, I don't. Dude, you can just like say, make me a hip-hop beat at 88 BPMs in the style of the Fuji's and Tribe Called Quest, and it'll you could just keep it and regenerate and it'll just make a beat. Or you can even like hum in the melody and say, make a beat in this style from the melody. Or put in you could put in your lyrics and it'll make a beat based off your lyrics.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:37

Bro, don't tell me that. I I lit I literally the other day made an oath to stop musing to stop using AI. Literally the other day.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:49

We used to crawl YouTube, just the yeah, crawl YouTube for beats.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:53

Oh, yeah, but listen, I'm notorious for type going on YouTube, typing in peaceful instrumental or whatever type of producer that I'm hip to, and then just going crazy from that. But it's tough with me. Like, I try not to go on random people's beats because I get so attached to the beat, and it's like, I can't even use this shit, you know? Like I gotta I could release it, but I can't do anything with it. If it, God forbid, I like make a verse on a on a random person's beat and the and the reverse and the track is perfect. I'll punch myself in the head, you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:27

Well, the couple songs we made got uh flagged on Facebook and they unleashed un unreleased the claim.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:35

Really?

SPEAKER_04 1:25:36

Yeah, I mean it was up for a while, and then I got notices like, hey, this beat is now free use or something. Oh. Or they just unre the artist just said, you know what, everyone have it.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:46

So all those beats we took from YouTube are like online. They're not like, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:52

I don't know. I didn't know that. That's actually cool. That's actually cool. Now I'll I'll I'll jump on a beat. I feel like I'm in this era in my life where it's just like like confidence.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:05

You know who's really killing it in that sense? I like Nas's new stuff.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:10

I love Nas's new stuff. Wow. I love the old school rappers that are still tapping in and showing that they still have to be.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:17

He just made he talks about what's going on now. It's like relevant.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:20

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:23

He's always been nasty though.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:25

Yeah, no, I love it. I love when these these older rappers come back and pop out their things.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:31

Yeah, because what new rappers are kind of, you know, there's a couple that are interesting to me, but none of them really stick out. I really I can't find rap I like sometimes. I go back to like 80s and 90s.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:43

It's crazy, also, if you really look at like the rap game and like who are some of the top performing rappers. Bro, they're all like 30 plus.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:54

Did you put me on to this guy, Nav Nav?

SPEAKER_02 1:26:57

Yeah, yeah. Nav, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's up there.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:03

He's up there too.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:04

He's a little reckless, but he's up there. Um who did you used to listen to? Uh what's that? It's called Blanco. Who's that rapper? The album was called Blanco, I think. Used to bump it in my car a lot.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:20

Really? Oh, uh, I think you're talking about Sir Michael Rocks.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:26

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:27

No. Oh, I don't know. Try to think who it is. I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:31

I'm gonna Google it. Not blue. Maybe I got the album wrong. I don't know. I'll text you when I uh maybe it's not called Blanco. Ab Soul? Maybe is it Ab Soul?

SPEAKER_02 1:27:45

Oh, Ab love Ab Soul. If it is Ab Soul, love Ab Soul. I don't really listen to his music as often now, but Yeah, I think it's Ab Soul.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:53

Love Ab so. Because I I was like, eh, I'm I don't know if I'm feeling this. And then you had me listen to this album, and I was like, Oh, this album's pretty good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I liked it.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:04

He has some good work. He had some good work. I love Absol. TDE in general. I just love him.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:10

Do you ever get a little bit sad when it's like around Mac Miller's death? Yeah. It makes I feel a little weird when it when the anniversary comes up.

unknown 1:28:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:23

Not because I'm like, I love him, but just like that faces mixtape. And everything after that, I was like, this dude is evolving. So I'm sad, saddened by like.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:32

Yeah, no, I'm definitely saddened because like he he was he's gone way too early.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:36

Yeah, swimming came out post mortem, but the album before that was fire too.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:44

Yeah, no, I remember when that mixtape came out. And like I remember being like, Rich, whatever you do, drop it and listen to this fucking mixtape. And I'll never forget, it took you a little bit, and then when you finally listened to it, you were just like, What the fuck is this dude on?

SPEAKER_04 1:29:05

Going off on beats and lyrics. Oh 26 tracks or something on in a Mother's Day mixtape, dropping it for free.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:15

Five.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:16

I was like, I was like, something sparked in him. Something interesting. He's different. There's there's something different about him. He's evolving. He's not like getting worse.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:28

Yeah, he definitely evolved for the better. He was gonna he's gonna do big things. He was gonna do good things. He he definitely passed too too early. Um rest in peace, Mac, Miller, Mac.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:41

I still bumped Miller Mac.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:45

I still bump his stuff religiously. Um you know, just shit is timeless, you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:54

Alright, man. Have a good weekend if I don't talk to you.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:57

Yeah, bro, you too, you too. It's been real. Thanks for having me on here. Um, let's let's let's catch up soon.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:05

Whoa, what's LOA? Let's go. LOASE LAF OUT Always.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:14

Um Love over Anger. Yeah, love over anger.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:22

Um let's offer assumptions.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:28

It's amazing. You know, and that and that's kind of what I wanted it to be. You know how Wheezy just be like, it's Wheezy, I have baby, and the app is for phenomenal. Or it's wheezy at baby, and the epic fuck you, or whatever. Like, same type of thing, you know?

SPEAKER_04 1:30:44

Yeah. Okay. So you're not gonna tell us. All right.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:48

I'm not gonna tell you. I'm not gonna tell you. It's everything.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:50

It's it's nothing and it's everything.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:52

Exactly, exactly. It's just it's one persona out of many. It's a Gemini being a Gemini, you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:01

I'm gonna try to go to bed, but my energy is so high right now. It's gonna be hard.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:07

That's you. I'm about to knock the fuck out. I'm about to pop these magnesiums, a little red rishi, call it a night.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:15

I'm about to eat a sleeve of club crackers with a jar of peanut butter and two glasses of milk. No, I'm not gonna do that. I would never sleep if I did that.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:25

I was about to say I could not sleep after eating that. I'd be up all night.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:32

I'm gonna eat a big jug of ice cream, Ben and Jerry's. No, I'm not. I took like 10 bites of a Ben and Jerry's ice cream one night, and I was like shaking from the sugar.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:50

I'll believe it.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:51

I was like, yo, how do people do this?

SPEAKER_02 1:31:54

Yeah, people eat that whole little tube too sometimes. Like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:58

Dude, I don't even want to read the label. I was like, is this even for human consumption?

SPEAKER_02 1:32:03

No, it usually isn't. That's the thing. I think last time I had a tube of ice cream, I threw up. But I didn't eat it the whole thing on purpose. It was one of those like I was watching a movie and it was this delicious was so fucking good.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:19

I mean, it's like a bag of chips. Can you really just eat one?

SPEAKER_02 1:32:21

They're like, you just want to keep eating them. Next thing I know, I'm at the bottom of this this cup and I finished it. And it was some ri it was relatively healthy ice cream. It wasn't healthy, but it wasn't like, you know, your typical, it's like some bougie shit, you know. Minimal ingredients. I still yaked my brains out. Threw up, threw up. Now, when I have ice cream, I it's super easy. Like, I'm like, yeah, I'm good with a scoop. I'm good with two.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:49

I mean, you could just make like a sherbet out of some lemons and limes and yeah, I'm all about that.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:55

Making my own ice cream or having some sorbet. Nice light, call it a day.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:04

I'm inspired to go paint, dude. It's gonna do it. It's gonna happen. Do it.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:11

Do it.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:12

I wanna make my TV head girls. Hell yeah. Go into Pinterest, my guy. Go into Pinterest. Type in like futuristic TV head or something, something along those lines. You gotta just type a couple different things in. Once you type one thing in, you start scrolling, you click on the image that you like, and AI does the rest. AI does the rest.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:39

AI is incorporated into Pinterest now.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:42

Yeah. So when you click on an image, it's gonna it's gonna scan the web for images that look similar to it. Well, and it's gonna bring you a bunch of new images. And right now, a lot of the images are AI generated. Like it'll tell you too. It'll say AI modified or whatever.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:02

I mean, you know me. I'm an AI, like, I didn't give it up like you. I'm embedded into it because.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:08

Don't get me wrong. Like, I didn't, because I started learning about, you know, the environmental impact. Because I I heard about it. I heard about all the heat, the water. It wasn't until I watched a video the other day that actually educated me on like how dramatic this shit really is. Yo, rich, look it up. It's fucked. Like it's kind of it's kind of scary. It's kind of it's kind of scary. Dude, it's scary.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:39

It might be making us dumb. Like idiocracy.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:43

Bro, not even. It's definitely making us dumb. It's definitely making us. Maybe not us. But imagine being 10.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:52

Imagine being 10 and having that. Like me and you, we lived our whole life almost, you know, 50% of our life. We can think like we could before.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:02

People not are gonna be able to think. And what if it gets turned off? They're gonna be freaked out.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:07

Screw. Screw.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:09

I mean, me and you will be good. We'll grow an apple tree. We'll go back to the sin. We'll be fine.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:16

Bro, what's crazy about AI, what's really, really crazy, it's what happens behind the scenes, dude. That's what's fucking crazy. Like these data centers that generate dude, one I I found out that one data center is the equivalent to almost 300,000 homes. 300,000, dude. You get one data center that comes into a city, that's like a whole city within that one building. Like we are definitely gonna run out of fucking water.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:59

And it, yeah, and then all that whatever's getting pushed out. Maybe it's just steam, but maybe it's steam with like particles in it that is probably not good for us. 100%.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:09

I mean, most water, it does what it does and it goes back into the environment. Water that is cooling down data centers or anything AI, it's gone. Like once it evaporates, it's gone. It's forever gone. So it kind of made me think a little bit. I was like, do I need this shit as much as I'm using it? Because I was using it for the most mundane shit.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:32

I mean, I'm it's integrated into my work.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:36

Yeah, I was using it not for just work. I was using that for everything. And then I and then I started hearing people say it's shit. So I was like, oh, let me chill out a little bit. Um, but then I watch it.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:47

It's good to reset. It's healthy to reset. 100%, 100%.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:51

Because at the same time, it's like, I mean, what were we doing five years ago? We were baking it work. You know?

SPEAKER_04 1:37:01

I mean, we put our phones up into these holders on our wall because we try to treat it like a landline when we get home. It's like, all right, let's put the phones away. And it's like that's crazy. Yeah, because it's like detach from there, and I'm like, oh my god, I'm a human being.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:17

Yeah, yeah. I'm not like after a day of doom scrolling, I just feel like fried, fried, my eyes burning, my head du da da. Like I have nothing in me after a day of doom scrolling.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:34

Uh yeah, you don't even have a good idea of what to do next. You just want to go back to it.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:39

You that's the worst part. You're like, fuck, what do I do? Fuck it. Let me just lay it.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:44

Because your brain just got shut off. You had to punch yourself in the face, go for a five-mile, a three-mile run, and then you're reset. You're like, okay, I think I'll paint.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:54

Dude, that was like the best thing I saw you doing. Because I didn't have time to do scroll, you know. I didn't have time.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:03

I got a stack of magazines over there I gotta read too. I started buying magazine subscriptions. They're so cheap now. Nice. Nice. I'm like, if I take a little bath or I'm on the couch with the kids and they I open a magazine, they go get a book. I'm like, oh, this is cool. Smithsonian got great articles. I like history. I mean, I'm reading uh this just got good articles, and Wired has like good tech articles. Time is like got like some good stories, yeah, but it's a lot of like what's going on in the world, politics and stuff like that. Yeah, but Smithsonian's got interesting stories, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:46

Right. Yeah, I would definitely tap in and get a subscription onto some onto some magazine that like very visual.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:55

Yeah, it feels good to hold it and to just you know it's short.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:03

That opened my eyes to how amazing magazines are, like what you can do with them. It's mad crazy. It's so fun.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:10

Dude, that's so funny. We do collages here all the time, too. I really they got their scissors, they got a huge thing of stickers and magazines, and they cut pictures out and glue it. They love it, dude.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:22

Yeah, they they love it. They love it. It's so fun. It's therapeutic, you know?

SPEAKER_04 1:39:28

Cut and paper, yeah, cut and paper, you know. A little bit of danger because you could cut your hand. I got them, they love cutting, they love doing uh dinner prep, snapping green beans, getting seeds out of squashes, uh cutting the green beans on the uh cutting board with their little knives.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:50

Oh yeah. You know they want to help in any way, in any way, shape, or form. I love that shit.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:56

Oh yeah. And Miles over, he just loves cutting stuff. He pretends to cut trees down outside. He's like, can we use the saw?

SPEAKER_02 1:40:06

Slow down, Miles. Slow down.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:08

Well, I let him do the handsaw because we built like a little bit of a um we built like a little tree house. Oh yeah? We got a cool little spot. We've got like an acre of land. If you walk through our woods, there's like a fresh spring that's got water going to it. Um they've got a nice um tree uh swing set with like a big clubhouse in there, and they got a bunch of different like uh plastic toy houses and a sandbox. They're living the life, dude.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:40

Oh, I always wanted a tree off as a kid. That has been a good thing. Me too.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:47

I'm living, I'm living it up through them. I'm like, yo, we're gonna build a tree house. Right now we're working on the roof. We got all the like pillars. It's like over it's a big rock, and then there's a walking platform to another tree. And now, and now we're building like we got pillars, and now we can start building like a slant roof. Nah. I mean, we don't we just work on a little at a time. We'll go cut a couple trees down and we'll cut them into the pieces we need, you know. Oh, hell yeah. Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:20

That is dope.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:22

And I'm like having more fun than they are. I bet. You're probably like, no, no, no, it doesn't go there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:35

No, no.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:38

Alright, blessed.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:40

When I come up to Mass, I definitely want to pull up on you, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:43

Please do. I mean, come, you could stay, you know, even if you bring you bring the whole fam.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:48

Yeah, for sure, for sure. Pull up, make it a family, a family, a family day.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:56

Or we can all, if you're in Boston and you get a hotel, we'll get an Airbnb or a hotel, we'll meet you there, and we'll do like a couple things in the city.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:05

If I'm in Massachusetts, I'm not getting no hotel.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:08

Oh, you're gonna be oh, you can stay with family. Cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:11

Yeah, I got a lot of people.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:12

Even better, because you'll be even closer to us.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:14

Yeah, exactly. I'll be right up to street.

unknown 1:42:16

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:17

All right, we'll go get lunch at Via, then we'll go hit a couple parks.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:21

Oh, Dobby, Dabby, if it's a summer, we'll go.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:25

There's a cool lake right down the street from my house. Okay. It's perfect. It's like hit hidden, but it's not. It's like right off a main road off of Route 9. Uh-huh. We lived here for two years and we didn't know about it, and then we found it one day, and I was like, why have we been coming here? We go there early, and just like there's a nice little beach, and it's like a little like lake.

unknown 1:42:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:46

Kids play in the sand. I when I was on maternity leave, I would just go with the two kids in the morning, let them play and swim, and I would do my kettlebells every morning, have a coffee, and then I would have my iced coffee after that.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:59

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:00

Once the sun got too strong and it was like noon, would go back, make lunch, take a nap. Dude, I was loving maternity.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:07

Living the dream. Every day. You said nap, and my brain would just like, yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:16

They would take a nap. I would just, you know, I'd just chill.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:20

I love myself some naps. The kids take nap, I'd take a nap too.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:25

They might they don't take naps anymore though.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:29

No. Yeah, I do. I'll probably take one tomorrow.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:36

Well, you're gonna need to, dude.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:38

Yeah, I'd be playing in my chain. I'll be playing in my naps now.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:43

Alright, man. Appreciate you.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:47

Yeah, man, it's been real. It's been real, real.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:52

Say hi to your family for me and uh hopefully we can link up when you're back. I'd love to meet them.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:57

For sure. Alright, peace. Peace.